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CALNRA: Governor Signs MICROSTAMPING *AND* LEAD AMMO BAN
California NRA Members Council ^ | 10/13/2007 | Mike Haas

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by jrp

http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1471

http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab821

(Excerpt) Read more at calnra.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1471; ab821; banglist; callegislation; guncontrol; leadammo; microstamping; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: Myrddin
Hunter is my favorite candidate. I'm not sure he has much hope of success. I would love to see him team up with Thompson.

So would I. I think Thompson would make a great Cheney style VP. But if it had to be the other way, I could hold my nose tightly enough to vote that ticket too. Not sure the stench wouldn't leak through from a Rudy or McPain cannidacy though.

Projectile vomiting in the voting booth is not pretty prospect.

161 posted on 10/14/2007 6:52:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
to the point where the cost of ammo is a significant portion of their total costs.

You bet.

1) The weapon will last a lifetime so let's say a 1911 clone costs $30/year.
3) Annual range membership is about $200.
3) 100 rounds of Winchester white box 45ACP cost about $28 at WallyWorld.

So if you're off to the range just once per month you're spending over $500 per year on your hobby. Of that, well over half is the cost of ammo at retail. A little less than half if you reload.

162 posted on 10/14/2007 6:54:17 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: El Gato

Humphrey was an odd duck. I never have known what to make of him.


163 posted on 10/14/2007 6:57:25 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: saganite
Even Oakland gets in on the act spitting on Marines.

Doesn't sound like a way to ensure a long life and a sound body to live it in.

164 posted on 10/14/2007 6:57:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RS
Hunter has the millions in earmarks for that jet that dosen’t work

What jet would that be?

165 posted on 10/14/2007 7:02:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Carry_Okie
I want it to be free again.

Understandable.

So what is y'all's plan to accomplish that?

166 posted on 10/14/2007 7:04:47 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: norton

Likewise... this is the road to confiscation.


167 posted on 10/14/2007 7:07:34 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: jrp

THIS is a PERFECT example of WHY a RINO like Rudy Giuliani should NOT be nominated in the Republican Party for President.

The Republican Party belongs to Constitutionalist Americans.
Allowing our only fortress against against attacks by the left to be undermined by the same kind of “Republican” as the Gubernator would leave us with no alternative but to start a third party.

Collaborating with the economic RINOs in the Republican Party is giving them a free ticket to trample us in the dust.

No GIULIANI - PERIOD!!!!!


168 posted on 10/14/2007 7:11:13 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Wow....even King George never dreamt of making the colonists stamp their balls.

Wow...I never thought of it in those terms! I always thought the government we wanted to avoid was the one eager to stamp our balls. How much worse is the one that demands we stamp our own? ;-)

169 posted on 10/14/2007 7:15:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Califreak
There’s a lot of reasons to get out that have nothing to do with politics.

Well not directly anyway. The basic problem is too many people wanting to live on a tiny strip of land near the coast. And the topography doesn't help the traffic flow. Too many choke points, and not enough alternate routes. Inland is hot, might as well live in Arizona, New Mexico or parts of Texas. (Texas is more humid of course, but not quite as hot.

Add to the "too many people" a green and socialist mindset that goes back quite a few years, and you get the brownouts, and to some extent the traffic problems. Although to be fair, the earlier "invention" of the freeway helped bring on the "too many people", and led to it's own obsolescence. We have the same problem in Texas, but except in some few places, Austin for example, the topography isn't so limiting. In fact Austin is bit like California. Liberal, green, everyone wants to live on the hill country side of town, rather than out on the flatter ground to the east. But Austin doesn't dominate the politics of Texas the way that thin line along the coast dominates California politics. (With some exceptions south of LA and around San Diego.)

170 posted on 10/14/2007 7:15:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ZULU
The Republican Party belongs to Constitutionalist Americans.

Are you sure? Cause if so, there sure are a hell of a lot of squatters!

171 posted on 10/14/2007 7:16:50 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; All
"and I encourage all stakeholders"

There it is!!! The liberal's most overused and overworked term that belies their religious zeal for the CONcensus PROcess, which in truth is as Maggie Thatcher described it... "The abscense of all leadership!"

In EVERY liberal CONsensus PROcess I've encountered, the "stakeholders" in this unconstitutional process are actually "claimjumpers" trying to abrogate the powers bestowed on elected representatives by the voters and claim that the CONsensus supercedes the will of the people and their duly elected stand-ins!!!

I harbor disdain for all this crappola!!!

172 posted on 10/14/2007 7:17:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Stop the gutless forclosing on righteous Reaganesque conservatives in the GOP!!! Do it to Lefties!!!)
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To: Still Thinking

The Second Amendment exists in order to prevent our balls from getting stamped. The government of California has clearly demonstrated its desire to stamp the balls of its citizens. Sadly, I get the sense that there are liberty thieves in the other 49 states who are eager to jump on the ball-stamping juggernaut.


173 posted on 10/14/2007 7:22:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SierraWasp
"stakeholders"

That term just makes my skin crawl. It is physically impossible to have a legitimate stake in taking away the rights of another who has done nothing wrong.

Yet in the relativist fuzzy "logic" of liberals, the mere existance of numerous groups who all want things that are mutually incompatible implies that all those groups have a right to a say in the final outcome.

174 posted on 10/14/2007 7:23:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
If my state had elected a Muslim for Congress, I’d move.

States don't elect Congressmen, Congressional Districts do. So they have one whacked out district out of eight. It's right in the central city of Minneapolis, the largest city in the state. Most states have one or two such districts, some even more. Even Texas has Shela Jackson Lee, and Charlie Gonzales, son of Henry, whose name, in Byrd like fashion is on about every public facility in the district.

175 posted on 10/14/2007 7:24:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yes, even here in AZ, long a conservative holdout, there has been a trend toward increasing ball stamping of late (in general, not on firearms issues specifically).


176 posted on 10/14/2007 7:25:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: El Gato
It doesn’t *yet* apply to target shooting. So your cowboy guns are as safe as any guns in California...

The legislation has tasked the executive to come up with regulation by 2010 to implement the intent of the legislation. Best guess is that when Fish and Game is done, center-fire, lead ammunition will be verboten from Los Angeles to Monterey Counties along the central coast.

Example: Lead was banned from waterfowling sometime ago but when F&G appeares at the hunt, the sportsman plays hell explaining possession of lead shot near a waterfowl reserve during pheasant season.

177 posted on 10/14/2007 7:27:21 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: All

The solution to this problem is simple if we can get the numbers on our side.

Starting now, I am going to work to get a boycott of ANY and ALL firearms manufacturers that 1. work on developing this technology, and 2. any firearms manufacturer or ammunition manufacturer/seller that sells their products to the State of California and any government agency thereof. Including all law enforcement on local and state level on the date this new law takes effect.

We need to organize the boycott and ensure that every manufacturer knows what we are doing. We need to spread the word to all pro-gun legislators in the country and to all of our pro-gun friends.

DO NOT WAIVER ON THIS!!! We can force California to back off when they find themselves limited to what guns they have access to and a limited supply of ammunition.

Mike


178 posted on 10/14/2007 7:30:45 PM PDT by BCR #226 (Abortion is the pagan sacrifice of an innocent virgin child for the sins of the mother and father.)
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To: Still Thinking; Smokin' Joe
No, she’s Sarget Shriver’s daughter. Teddy, Bobby, etc., are (were) her uncles.

That's what Joe said. The Kennedy sister is Eunice. Eunice Kennedy married Sergeant Shriver. Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger is their daughter.

179 posted on 10/14/2007 7:32:36 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: El Gato

so...my district is very conservative. And yet, “Kalifornia” is blamed entirely for a handful of liberals.

I just hate the State bashing. It’s so inane.


180 posted on 10/14/2007 7:34:31 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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