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To: EarthBound

I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second. That pisses a lot of Freepers off and some don’t understand that stance but that’s the way it is.

I also fully support anything to prevent abortions from happening except making them blanketly illegal across the board. For example I fully support requiring an ultrasound be performed and the mother SEE the baby before an abortion (I thought that was the best idea ever).

That being said, this article didn’t put me into a rage, but it did give me great sadness.

Later in the article I find that abortion rates were about the same whether they were legal or illegal. This filled me with even greater sadness because obviously the legality isn’t what makes a mother choose to abort her pregnancy.

It’s how children anymore are seen as a burden instead of a blessing. How schools, media, and yes even sometimes religious organization don’t consider a child a child until it is actually born (until then it’s called a fetus).

I want to say more but I can’t form the words right now unfortunately.


16 posted on 10/12/2007 9:31:27 AM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Domandred
Later in the article I find that abortion rates were about the same whether they were legal or illegal.

I find this extremely unlikely.

pro-choice second

Uh-huh, what choice did the kid have?

18 posted on 10/12/2007 9:35:54 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Fred/Duncan - dream team))
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To: Domandred

In one sense God is ‘pro-Choice’. He gave us free will. He could have made everyone think and act only in ways pleasing to him ... but he didn’t.

Is that what you mean?


19 posted on 10/12/2007 9:41:35 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Domandred

So you’d classify yourself as anti-abortion, but not pro-life?


25 posted on 10/12/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Domandred

Pro-choice = Pro-murder. You may not like the terminology but that’s the truth.

Let’s just have a look shall we at what the Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary has to say about the heinous, murderous practice of abortion.

“ABORTION

The Bible places a high value on all human life, including that of the unborn. Biblical teaching declares that life is a sacred, God-given gift (Gen. 1:26-27; 2:7; Deut. 30:15-19; Job 1:21; Ps. 8:5; 1 Cor. 15:26), especially the life of children (Ps. 127:3-5; Luke 18:15-16), and condemns those who take it away (Exod. 20:13; 2 Kings 1:13; Amos 1:13-14). The development of unborn life is controlled by God (Job 31:15; Ps. 139:13-16; Eccles. 11:5; Isa. 44:2; 46:3; 49:5; Jer. 1:5; Luke 1:15; Gal. 1:15). The personhood of the fetus is clearly taught in Exod. 21:22 where the unborn is called a “child” (yeled) rather than a “fetus” (nephel or golem). Hos. 9:11 implies that life begins at conception, while Luke 1:41,44 recognizes the consciousness of an unborn child.

The high value placed on unborn human life in the Bible is consistent with the Mosaic law regarding negligent miscarriage (Exod. 21:22-25). This law can be compared to similar statutes in the Code of Hammurabi (nos. 209-214) in which the punishment exacted for acts of negligence that resulted in a woman’s miscarriage was dependent on the legal or social status of the mother, not the personhood (or supposed lack thereof) of her unborn child. Middle Assyrian law no. 53 (12th century b.c.) made a self-induced miscarriage (an abortion) a capital offense.”

God’s word from the Holy Bible is the highest and final authority on any moral argument such as this. Murder by definition is the taking of an innocent human life. Abortion is the taking of an innocent human life. Therefore abortion IS murder which is a violation of the 6th Commandment (Exodus 20:13).

People have to get off the fence and decide whose side they are on - either God’s side and pro-life or Satan’s side and pro-murder (pro-choice).


26 posted on 10/12/2007 11:16:37 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Domandred

“I have always been against abortion. I have also always been pro-choice. Against abortion comes first, pro-choice second.”

I have always been against the Death Penalty. I have also always been pro Death Penalty. Against the Death Penalty comes first, Pro Death Penalty second.

Now, does that make sense?


30 posted on 10/12/2007 11:34:24 AM PDT by sappy
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