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The Right's Revealingly Cruel Treatment of the Frost Family (Free Republic Mentioned)
The New Republic ^ | Friday, October 12, 2007 | E. J. Dionne

Posted on 10/12/2007 6:13:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Conservatives claim to be in favor of stable families, small businesses, hard work, private schools, investment and homeownership.

So why in the world are so many on the right attacking the family of Graeme Frost?

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The kids were treated, thanks to S-CHIP. The Frosts spoke out so the public would know that real people lie behind the acronym.

Their reward was to be trashed on right-wing blogs and talk radio as if they were multimillionaires ripping off the system. The assault on the Frosts apparently began on the Free Republic website and quickly spread to National Review Online, Power Line, and Michelle Malkin's blog, as well as Rush Limbaugh's radio show.

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OK, the Democrats are "fair game," but a 12-year-old? No wonder nobody talks about compassionate conservatism anymore.

As a general rule, I am a fan of the blogosphere. It has broadened the public debate and brought new people into politics. And nasty stuff is by no means limited to the right-wing blogs. Left-of-center blogs whose political views I largely share have published offensive stuff, too. Shaun Mullen, who blogs at The Moderate Voice--yes, there are moderate blogs--is right to generalize when he says that the targeting of the Frost family reveals "the vicious underbelly of the blogosphere."

So rather than just condemn the right-wingers as meanies, let's take their claims seriously. Doing so makes clear that they are engaged in a truly perverse and incoherent form of class warfare.

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But here is a family with modest possessions doing everything conservatives tell people they should do, and the right trashes them for getting help to buy health insurance for their children.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: graemefrost; icwhatudo; icwhaudo; idiotsinmedia; schip; tnr
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To: tubebender

It was an accident between their car and a tree. Mother driving, hit ice, skidded then hit a tree.


41 posted on 10/12/2007 6:32:45 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: tsmith130

And the tree had no liability insurance. ;o)


42 posted on 10/12/2007 6:33:58 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: kristinn

EJ Dionne is a bed wetting version of Dr. Goebbels.


43 posted on 10/12/2007 6:35:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Tofu burgers are the last gasp of a dying society)
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To: kristinn
If E.J. wants to champion the availability of health care to everyone, he would be wise to assault the Malpractice Crisis that has priced health care out of the reach of everyone.

E.J. appears to be a man who is struggling to find truth but can not manage to do it.

44 posted on 10/12/2007 6:35:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: kristinn

When are the Democrats going to stop hiding behind human shields, and make a forthright, rational argument for what they are proposing?


45 posted on 10/12/2007 6:36:12 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: xzins
Having never sent children to private schools, is that a tax deductible expense?

Not usually.

46 posted on 10/12/2007 6:36:42 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Hildy
put a victim out there, and when he’s challenged, go after the attackers as being “mean.” They set us up all the time.

Wow! That's exactly what the Rooty Rooter FRiberals do when conservatives point out how liberal Rooty Toot is.

47 posted on 10/12/2007 6:36:52 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: AppyPappy

I’ve not even heard it reported as “household income” instead I’ve heard it reported as “earned” which is a very important distinction.

Small business owners can, if structured correctly, thanks to GWB, pay themselves a “salary” from their business and move the rest over as as dividends ( untaxed ) from the business.

So they can perhaps tell the truth that was all they earned but it isn’t all the money they get.

There is no way in the world that someone buys a $450k house, owns all that commercial realestate and only has $45k/year income. The BS meter is past the MAN THE LIFEBOATS stage.

In fact the school is possibly getting scammed into giving them financial aid (needs based would be my guess ) and this story may well be causing them problems on that front as well. Just a hunch.


48 posted on 10/12/2007 6:39:11 AM PDT by festus (No matter how guilty you are a jury will probably get you off.)
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To: kristinn

What I find remarkable about this article (and I take it from the comments that the author is a long-time liberal weenie) is that it exemplifies the left’s view of all money as the government money. The author does not see or understand the difference between tax breaks that allow someone to keep more of his own money and government handouts that offer someone things bought with someone else’s money. He (she?) repeatedly compares these two things as though they are the same.

This comparison makes perfect sense to a liberal because they really view all money as the government’s money. Therefore it doesn’t make a difference whether the government “gives” it to you directly (via a tax break) or buys things with it that it gives to you (like health care).


49 posted on 10/12/2007 6:39:14 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: tsmith130

Sounds like she was driving too fast for road conditions.


50 posted on 10/12/2007 6:39:44 AM PDT by tubebender (My weight is perfect for my height... which varies...)
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To: kristinn
The Frosts put themselves in this position when they FREELY agreed to join this typically shameful tactic of the left using children and emotion to obfuscate the realities of their policies.
51 posted on 10/12/2007 6:39:56 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: kristinn

Cruel, to me, is taking money away from hard-working people who support their families and giving it to people who don’t need it.

Cruel is telling responsible U.S. citizens that they have to support every indigent who comes into the country.


52 posted on 10/12/2007 6:40:20 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: AppyPappy

Is the media reporting the $20k the dad spends to send his kids to school?


53 posted on 10/12/2007 6:44:11 AM PDT by wastedyears (I turn 22 in two days.)
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To: xzins

“Having never sent children to private schools, is that a tax deductible expense?”

No, unless the school is in some way closely intertwined with the Church (~”parish school”). Even that totally justified tax relief is quickly closing.

Nor do I receive a tax credit for monies paid in support of the local public school district.

Additionally, programs provided to the public schools (such as the useless DARE program), have been pulled from our Catholic school.


54 posted on 10/12/2007 6:44:34 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Now I’m really curious what they pay to send their kids to that private school. Someone said the cost is something like 20 grand per kid, but that theirs get some kind of assistance/scholarship. And they have 4 kids in private schooling.

If all you’re making is 45,000 bucks, then how in the world can you be paying even half of that tuition, 10 grand per child, or 25%.

At 25%, that would leave them only 25 grand a year to live on in a very high cost area before they even begin paying mortgage, utilities, transportation, etc.

Someone wrote that their mortgage is something like 1400 a month.

These numbers don’t add up.


55 posted on 10/12/2007 6:44:41 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: tsmith130
Mother driving, hit ice, skidded then hit a tree.

Claims to have hit ice.

The last precipitation in the area was a half-inch of rain three days earlier, and the temperatures after the rain had averaged in the 40's. No snow for several weeks prior to the accident.

I'm not saying for certain there was no ice, but it looks unlikely.

56 posted on 10/12/2007 6:45:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: EyeGuy

See #55


57 posted on 10/12/2007 6:45:28 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: kristinn

REPUBLICANS LEAVE FROST FEELING COLD

(Now that’s a headline!)


58 posted on 10/12/2007 6:46:00 AM PDT by XR7
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To: AppyPappy

New republic= lies


59 posted on 10/12/2007 6:46:29 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: kristinn

As usual, to the left the truth is cruel.


60 posted on 10/12/2007 6:48:27 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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