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(U.K.) Police chief: Legalise heroin (and all other drugs)
The Sun (U.K.) ; Various ^
| October 11, 2007
Posted on 10/11/2007 11:26:19 AM PDT by Stoat
Report ... Richard Brunstrom
Police chief: Legalise heroin
A CONTROVERSIAL police chief has called for the legalisation of all drugs, including heroin, in a report published today.
Police chief constable of North Wales, Richard Brunstrom, says that police are currently in a battle against drugs which they cannot win.
He says the current system has not worked well and that illegal drugs are now in plentiful supply, and have become consistently cheaper in real terms over the years.
In the report to North Wales police authority, he described the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 as not fit for purpose and immoral and thinks the way forward is to repeal it.
Repeal
The Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 should be repealed and replaced by a new Substance Misuse Act based upon the legalisation and careful regulation of all substances of abuse in one consistent manner," he writes.
The report is in response to the HM Government Consultation paper Drugs: Our community, your say, and the forthcoming Welsh Assembly Government consultation on the all Wales substance misuse strategy.
He writes in the report: If policy on drugs is in future to be pragmatic and realistic, driven by ethics not dogma, then the current prohibitionist stance will have to be swept away as both unworkable and immoral...
Such a strategy leads inevitably to the legalisation and regulation of all drugs.
Charitable think-tank The Transform Drug Policy Foundation (TDPF) said: We are absolutely delighted at Mr Brunstroms paper.
The chief constable has displayed great leadership and imagination in very publicly calling for a drug policy that replaces the evident failings of prohibition with a legal system of regulation and control for potentially dangerous drugs.
But MP for Alyn and Deeside Mark Tami said that drugs policy was not black and white, and that saying heroin must be legalised was blinkered and dangerous.
A Downing Street website petition urging the Prime Minister to sack Mr Brunstrom has gained more than 3,500 signatures.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; drugs; england; greatbritain; heroin; police; uk; unitedkingdom
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North Wales Police chief calls for drugs to be made legal - North Wales News - News - Daily Post North Wales
North Wales Police chief calls for drugs to be made legal
Oct 11 2007 by Carl Butler, Daily Post
NORTH Wales Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom is calling for the legalisation and regulation of all drugs and next week will ask North Wales Police Authority to back him.
The regions top cop reckons existing drug laws are not fit for purpose.
In a nutshell, Im advocating the repeal of the Misuse of Drugs Act and the consequent legalisation and regulation of all drugs, says Mr Brunstrom, who describes drugs prohibition as unworkable and immoral.
Central to existing UK drugs policy is the ABC classification system. It is now indefensible both legally and ethically.
It is arbitrary and subject to politically motivated manipulation. It is a disgrace.
The Chief Constable has set out his arguments in a detailed report which will go before the Police Authority on Monday. He hopes his document will be adopted as the North Wales response to Government and Assembly Government consultations about future drugs laws in the UK.
Mr Brunstrom says: UK drug policy for the last several decades has been based upon prohibition, with a list of banned substances placed into three classes the ABC system and draconian criminal penalties for the possession or supply of controlled drugs.
This system has not worked well. Illegal drugs are now in plentiful supply, and have become consistently cheaper in real terms over the years. The number of users has increased dramatically.
Drug related crime has soared equally dramatically as a direct consequence of the illegality of some drugs, and the huge profits from illegal trading have supported a massive rise in organised criminality.
Mr Brunstrom wants the Authority to back him in calling for a change in the Misuse of Drugs Act to the Misuse of Substances Act which would include alcohol and nicotine.
He also calls for the Authority to affiliate to the charity Transform Drug Policy Foundation, which campaigns for the repeal of prohibition to be replaced with a legal system of regulation and control.
Yesterday the charity praised Mr Brunstrom for his great leadership and warns those that denounce him should be wary of relying on what Mr Brunstrom calls moralistic dogma.
Danny Kushlick, Transform Director said: We are absolutely delighted at Mr Brunstroms paper. The Chief Constable has displayed great leadership and imagination in very publicly calling for a drug policy that replaces the evident failings of prohibition with a legal system of regulation and control for potentially dangerous drugs.
The current system for classifying harmful drugs illogically excludes both alcohol and nicotine says Mr Brunstrom. In fact while alcohol and tobacco cost the NHS £1.6bn each annually, illegal drugs cost the NHS £0.8bn.
Drugs will not go away and if they cannot be eradicated the principal object of public policy has to be reducing as far as possible the harm they can do.
Despite his criticisms about the drugs law, Mr Brunstrom promises as a police officer I will continue to enforce it to the best of my ability, despite my misgivings about its moral and practical worth.
Police chief wants all drugs legalised UK Reuters
Police chief wants all drugs legalised
Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:20am BST
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LONDON (Reuters) - North Wales police chief Richard Brunstrom has called for all drugs, including heroin, to be legalised because current policy is based on "dogma rather than evidence".
Brunstrom said the Misuse of Drugs Act should be repealed as the current UK drugs policy is based upon a "wholly outdated and thoroughly repugnant moralistic stance based upon rhetoric and dogma rather than a rational (and more ethical) philosophy".
He also pointed out that it is impossible to combat an industry worth an estimated 8 billion pounds a year in the UK.
The chief constable laid out his arguments in a response to a Home Office drugs consultation, and will present them to the North Wales Police Authority on Monday.
In a report, he calls for a new classification scheme -- a scientifically based "hierarchy of harm" to include all substances of abuse such as nicotine and alcohol.
Brunstrom argued that overwhelming evidence suggested drugs could not be eradicated and that the main aim should be to reduce as far as possible the harm they can cause.
"If policy on drugs is in future to be pragmatic not moralistic, driven by ethics not dogma, then the current prohibitionist stance will have to be swept away as both unworkable and immoral -- to be replaced with an evidence-based unified system (including tobacco and alcohol) aimed at minimisation of harms to society," the report said.
"This logical, rational and consistent approach will inexorably and inevitably lead to the legalisation and regulation of all harmful drugs, in place of the current policy of proscription and enforcement for some drugs and the legal regulation of others, selected subjectively."
He said such a policy would reduce drug-related crime and free-up funds for treatment.
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posted on
10/11/2007 11:26:30 AM PDT
by
Stoat
To: Stoat
That would never work here , our cops could not live on what we pay them .
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posted on
10/11/2007 11:31:14 AM PDT
by
kbennkc
(For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
To: Stoat
Sure. Pour gasoline on a roaring fire.
Why, the whole concept will aid our culture and our society immensely.
Then legalize every current act know as perverted, immoral, unethical, or illegal.
Who needs law and order anyway? Whats that racist and profiling concept about anyway.
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posted on
10/11/2007 11:41:39 AM PDT
by
bill1952
(The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
To: Stoat
Just don’t ask for my tax dollars to pay for the costs of drug-related crimes and treatment programs.
To: Integrityrocks
I don’t like how drugs are controlled and subjected to profit now. If I want to buy a drug for an upcoming migraine, I should be able to do that without a dive into the government’s lengthly bureacratic enrichment and authority programs.
If a person could register as a user and then allow the subject to be fair game in job interviews we’d have fewer hassles and more fairness. In the meantime, I’ll pay hundreds of dollars for a pill that should cost less than $5. The abusers are making the rules for the rest of us.
Understand? It’s a LIBERAL program!
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posted on
10/11/2007 11:59:03 AM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
To: Integrityrocks; traviskicks
Just dont ask for my tax dollars to pay for the costs of drug-related crimes and treatment programs. So you'd prefer your tax $$ to go to funding more corrupt narcs, housing more non-violent 'criminals' in prisons, meanwhile interdicting only a tiny fraction of the 'contraband'? Not to mention empowering vicious, murdering gangs of foreigners with millions upon millions of black-market dollars, and depriving law-abiding citizens of more and more freedoms due to 'drug exceptions' to constitutional rights?
Yeah, love that War on Some Drugs. Gotta keep buying those shiny new D.A.R.E. vans for Barney Fife and co., dontcha know ...
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posted on
10/11/2007 12:04:17 PM PDT
by
bassmaner
(Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
To: Stoat
He said such a policy would reduce drug-related crime and free-up funds for treatment. Great ideas, all. Now, if the UK comes to their senses about guns and Muslims, maybe they'll survive after all. Somehow I doubt that they'll have the same eureka moment about those problems, though ...
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posted on
10/11/2007 12:07:57 PM PDT
by
bassmaner
(Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
To: bassmaner
As long as we are willing to allow drug addicts to overdose without any hinderance from our emergency medical staff, I would agree to this idea. Want to die by floating off into *another world*? Fine with me.
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posted on
10/11/2007 1:13:48 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
To: Stoat
Perhaps it is time to take the opposite approach. That of eugenics through drugs. (I’m not proposing this seriously, just that it makes for an interesting picture.)
1) On top of perpetual government welfare, why not offer the poor free drugs if they want them, as well as free sterilization? Many would choose the path of painlessness, since they have already chosen the path of failure. They just stay stoned until they die. The only difference is that society lets them, instead of throwing them in prison.
2) Prisoners should also have all the drugs they want, except that the last year of their sentence would be at a drying out facility. Being in a perpetual stupor, they would be much less prone to violence against each other and guards.
3) Embrace the philosophy of “my body, not the governments” in other regards. That if you are an adult, it is not up to government to restrict or tax you for smoking or drinking, for using illegal or prescription drugs, taking herbal medicines, refusing vaccines, trying to cure cancer with chiropractic and prayer, reckless consensual sexual activity, etc. But it is ALSO not their job to pay for anything you do to yourself in the process.
To: Stoat
He's talking sense, prohibition never works, if you take away the illicitness you take away a great part of the allure.
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
- Abraham Lincoln
"The prohibition law, written for weaklings and derelicts, has divided the nation, like Gaul, into three parts -- wets, drys, and hypocrites."
- Florence Sabin
To: Popocatapetl
Embrace the philosophy of my body, not the governments in other regards. That if you are an adult, it is not up to government to restrict or tax you for smoking or drinking, for using illegal or prescription drugs, taking herbal medicines, refusing vaccines, trying to cure cancer with chiropractic and prayer, reckless consensual sexual activity, etc. But it is ALSO not their job to pay for anything you do to yourself in the process.Also, consenting medical acts. No more government license bottlenecks.
To: bassmaner; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; Allosaurs_r_us; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
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posted on
10/11/2007 11:27:11 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
The obvious downside to legalizing all drugs is that more people are going to use them when they are easily obtainable .
As much as I distrust government , I’d rather see sales / distribution in their hands than in those of the crime syndicates , gangs , etc...
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posted on
10/12/2007 1:28:30 AM PDT
by
sushiman
To: Integrityrocks
Just dont ask for my tax dollars to pay for the costs of drug-related crimes and treatment programs.I agree completely our tax dollars should not pay for treatment etc ...
but even if they did ... it would still be cheaper than funding the WOD.
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posted on
10/12/2007 4:58:46 AM PDT
by
SubGeniusX
($29.95 Guarantees Your Salvation!!! Or TRIPLE Your Money Back!!!)
To: Integrityrocks
Just dont ask for my tax dollars to pay for the costs of drug-related crimes and treatment programs.
Sorry buddy, you’re already paying a lot for that right now. Ever heard of a state prison, or probation, or narcotics officers and interdiction programs, how about drug sniffing dogs, narcotics stings, customs agents, flash bang grenades, gas chromatography to analyze the urine of parolees or people on probation, mandatory minimum sentences, helicopters specially equiped to detect marijuana farms in California?
The current policy in this nation is costing you a hell of a lot more than some funding for rehab and education programs.
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posted on
10/12/2007 8:05:47 AM PDT
by
TheKidster
(you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
To: sushiman
I might agree that drug use would go up somewhat significantly with drugs like pot that are not very addicting and are not seen as a major detriment if one uses it.
But I don’t see a huge increase in drugs like heroin if they were made legal. Would you do heroin if it were legal? I wouldn’t. It’s not heroin’s legal status that keeps me away from it. It’s the fact that it is a highly addicting drug that can become a huge monkey on one’s back if one becomes addicted to it.
Plus, it is possible for a legal drug to decrease in use, be it through socitial attidutes and education. Tobacco is the perfect example of this. I don’t have the exact figures, but I’m sure it’s use has plummeted since the 50’s.
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posted on
10/12/2007 11:23:48 AM PDT
by
Nate505
To: traviskicks
Bump and thanks for all the pings you do.
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posted on
10/12/2007 9:17:15 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
(We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
To: dcwusmc
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posted on
10/12/2007 10:10:39 PM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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