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Some other things that have not been answered:

Why are neither the family home nor their commercial property listed on tax forms as being their primary residence?

Why is the family home listed as the "office" of the Limited Liability Corporation that owns the commercial property?

Why, if the family is so quick to announce how much they earn each year in every interview they do, does the family refuse the Baltimore Sun's request to examine their tax return?

Hmmmmmm, makes me wonder why the Baltimore Sun is not being accused of "attacking a 12 year old boy"?

1 posted on 10/11/2007 11:19:38 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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I’d also like to say something to Mr. and Mrs. Frost. Maybe a media type reading this can get this to them:

I want you to know that I’m truly sorry for what happened to your family. I hope your kids continue with their recovery and I hope your business improves to the point where you will not need the S-CHIP program anymore. I’m sure you are not pleased at my interest in your finances but at the same time I hope you will see there is absolutely no attack on your son contained in my post.

You made a choice to become public figures, to allow your son to be coached to give the democrat response to president Bush’s veto of the expansion of S-CHIP. An expansion that would wind up covering my family as well. As I understand it, his veto does not take away your family’s coverage. Overturning that veto would mean my family would get that coverage.

In my opinion this would take our country further down the road to government run health care. We both have seen what the government has done running the public schools and that is why we both have opted for private schooling.

Your family opted to appear in the Baltimore Sun as a model of the type of family that currently uses S-CHIP, mine could be a model of the type that that it shouldn’t be expanded to. We have a nice home, 2 cars, all 4 kids in private school and are able to spend 2 weeks at the beach each year. I just don’t think its fair for other people to have to pay for my families health care. My wife and I would love to run our own business, but our decisions on employment are usually focused on who provides the best health care first, what we want to do second.

I thought it was important to examine what families using S-CHIP in its current form were like so we could understand if there really was a need to expand it to higher income families. You choose to be that family in the spotlight and I’m sorry you now have to face this examination.

Soon the media trucks will be gone and life will be back to somewhat normal. I keep you and your family in my prayers.


2 posted on 10/11/2007 11:21:29 AM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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IIRC, concrete counter tops have been featured on This Old House. They even did a feature on how they are made at the old Brooklyn Navy Yard in a factory built as part of the commercialization of that facility. This is not dad pouring ready-mix in a form made out of plywood and 2x4’s. It is a very nice looking product with a high recycle content (part of the show was looking at all the ground up beer bottles used to make the countertop). So don’t let “concrete” make it sound cheaper that it was. TOH does very little on the cheap.


4 posted on 10/11/2007 11:29:05 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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Excellent work, bump!


5 posted on 10/11/2007 11:30:20 AM PDT by JPJones
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Need to see an accident report to verify if the ‘black ice’ is even true.


7 posted on 10/11/2007 11:32:38 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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Being a Canadian, I don’t know a lot about the S-CHIP issues, beyond what I've learned on FR; but, I do know about a government health care monopoly.

Ironically, if S-CHIP were expanded — or if comprehensive government medical care is introduced; families paying at least an average amount of taxes will pay more for their government insurance than they would have for private insurance.

If the Frosts had been paying higher taxes for S-CHIP, then they would not have had that money available for counter-tops and private schools. If they had chosen to forgo those luxuries in favour of buying insurance — they’d be in the same position as they would have been with the government program. Actually, they’d be better off — because they’d have more choices and probably lower costs with private insurance.

11 posted on 10/11/2007 11:37:54 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Your original post was careful and, with this post, you've cleared up a small error and noticed a new concrete fact.

Any further criticism of your work on this Frost story will be ideologically motivated.

Well done, sir.

14 posted on 10/11/2007 11:45:34 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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You are doing a great job! One guy taking on the Rat Party, George Soros, HillaryMatters, and a ton of nutroots. I hope that doesn’t make you nervous. LOL! However, I think all the shrieking on the Left means you have hit home. Don’t worry, you have a powerful ally on your side: The Truth!


15 posted on 10/11/2007 11:45:47 AM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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Keep fighting the good fight, icwhatudo!! Thanks for your research into all of this. The fact of the matter is—the main point of this whole story is that the Democrats used a little kid to hide behind and attack President Bush when he vetoed the BullSCHIP thing—THEY should have done THEIR research better and found a ‘real’ poverty stricken family to front their attacks, and not this Frost family, who may or may not be innocent in this story, who knows. I sincerely doubt that, though, the Frosts know they could have had insurance BEFORE the children were hurt, and they chose not to have it...they got help from the SCHIP program (which hasn’t been destroyed by the veto, for Pete’s sake) when, if all the facts were revealed, they probably didn’t qualify for it—let the MSM and tax-spending libs complain all they want. You uncovered facts. They don’t like that, not one little bit. Hang in there!


20 posted on 10/11/2007 11:54:08 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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Does Free Republic have an annual Buckhead trophy? If it does, then you are in the lead for the 2007 one.
23 posted on 10/11/2007 11:56:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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"A photo taken in the family's kitchen shows what appears to be a recent remodeling job"

I'd just avoid the entire remolding thing if I were you. A decent carpenter with the right shop equipment can build his own kitchen cabinets at 10th or less than the cost of store bought cabinets. This guy is a carpenter and has the shop tools so it's easily evening / weekend work for the cost of some lumber and hardware. Same with the concrete counters. They don't have to be store bought. A good DYIer can pour them himself.

No doubt with the real estate they own, this family's assets are much larger than a 45k yearly taxable income would typically indicate, but the kitchen remolding job means nothing in that regard.

25 posted on 10/11/2007 12:03:06 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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Look, you've done a public service here.

At a minimum you have raised the issue of the propriety of folks with significant net worth getting public assistance.

My brother has significantly less net worth than this family of 6 and yet he not only pays for his own health insurance but he, like so many others, has to contribute to the health insurance of others with higher net worths. It is the height of absurdity.

You, my friend, have nothing to apologize for or be defensive about.

Hopefully some good will come out of this kerfluffle like asset tests and the requirement for those taking public money to supply the public with balance sheets and income statements.

Having said that I wish nothing but the best for the injured children in their efforts at recovery. It really isn't very hard to separate the children from the politics if one has half a brain, which of course rules out that half of America prone to use children to advance their politics.

27 posted on 10/11/2007 12:06:35 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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By the way, from another recent thread:

Mr. Frost, also 26, is known as Halsey. He owns Frostworks, a woodworking and furniture-design studio in Baltimore. His mother, Randy Frost, is a quilt artist. His father is the deputy director of design and construction for the City University of New York in Manhattan. The bridegroom’s late grandfather Frederick G. Frost Jr. was an architect responsible for several public buildings in New York, including Martin Luther King High School in Manhattan.

Obviously, the entire greedy extended Frost family would rather reach into the wallets of complete strangers than help each other out. This is clearly not an impoverished family. They should be ashamed of themselves.

30 posted on 10/11/2007 12:22:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Good investigative work, the kind that newspapers and journalists USE to do


32 posted on 10/11/2007 12:29:04 PM PDT by italianquaker (Is there anything Ron Paul doesn't blame the USA for?)
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Ping to new Frost thread.


34 posted on 10/11/2007 12:36:17 PM PDT by palmer
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Good work!

“Why is the family home listed as the “office” of the Limited Liability Corporation that owns the commercial property?”

I set up an LLC to buy a small commercial property and did the same thing. Since the LLC is formed before you buy (or close on purchase of) the property, you need your home address, not the building address that you are buying, as the ‘office’ of the registering agent of the LLC.

“Why, if the family is so quick to announce how much they earn each year in every interview they do, does the family refuse the Baltimore Sun’s request to examine their tax return? “

LOL. These guys should be Republicans!


36 posted on 10/11/2007 12:39:05 PM PDT by WOSG (I just wish freepers would bash Democrats as much as they bash Republicans)
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If he lists his home as his business address, then I’m sure he takes a business (Schedule C) offset for the space used.

There are so many things that businesses can take off the top as expenses (utilities, labor, rent, mileage, equipment, supplies, etc.) that farmers regularly are seen in large homes, driving large, new vehicles and also reporting zero income.

Every family should declare itself a business. :>)


37 posted on 10/11/2007 12:40:35 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, then we can win the presidency)
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Bttt.

5.56mm

38 posted on 10/11/2007 12:42:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Sierra Hotel


39 posted on 10/11/2007 12:44:20 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Dropping out of Lurk & Link Mode for a rare bit of commentary- and compliments to you.

First, the one error you made was minor, and you noticed and corrected it.

I long for the day when the Jackal Pack Press is as meticulous.

You've done good work, and I, and others, appreciate it.

Note well- our "friends" on the Left reacted with silence at first-- because they'd been caught!

Then, the predictable attack the messenger, scream "Liar! Liar!" and dodging and weaving commenced- they hope to so shout over and muddy the waters that the average person will throw up their hands in despair.

It's not working- my formerly Democrat wife- who is very apolitical- is pissed-- I mean really pissed off at this smarmy, cynical use of injured children to justify picking her pocket.

Again, thank you.

43 posted on 10/11/2007 12:52:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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How does the IRS handle a $40k scholarship?


44 posted on 10/11/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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