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Police: Columbia Won't Turn Over (Noose) Video
AP via SFGate ^ | 10/11/7 | TOM HAYS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 10/11/2007 10:57:59 AM PDT by SmithL

NEW YORK, (AP) -- Columbia University has refused to turn over security videotape that could help identify who hung a noose on a black professor's office door, police said Thursday.

Investigators began asking on Wednesday for tapes from cameras in the building, but have been rebuffed by administrators, said Paul Browne, the New York Police Department's top spokesman.

He said police will have to get a court order to force the school to provide video they believe could crack the case.

"It's unfortunate because it adds a time-consuming step to the investigation," Browne said.

A Columbia spokesman did not immediately return a request for comment.

Authorities were testing the 4-foot-long twine noose for DNA evidence, but had no suspects as of Thursday morning.

On Wednesday, the professor who was the target of the attack, Madonna Constantine, told hundreds of faculty and students at a rally on the Ivy League campus that the incident was a "blatant act of racism" that "reeks of cowardice and fear."

"I'm upset that our community has been exposed to such an unbelievably vile incident," she said.

Police believe the noose was placed on the doorknob of Constantine's office at Teachers College — Columbia's graduate school of education — Tuesday morning, when a colleague spotted it and notified authorities.

Police declined to discuss possible motives or suspects.

Constantine, 44, told police there was "ill will" between her and another professor who had replaced her while she was on an extended leave, a police official said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: boycriedwolf; columbia; columbiau; columbiauniversity; fakehatecrimes; madonnaconstantine; noose; phonyhatecrime; zogbyism
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As compelling as the conspiracy theories are, I don't buy them. If there really is damning footage on the video(s) (which at this point is pure speculation), Columbia has a lot more to lose than to gain by somehow tampering or losing the videos. Such an act would not avoid detection. So to suggest that Columbia is actively suppressing the videos makes little sense to me. It would come out in the wash eventually and ultimately be far more damagin to Columbia than anythiing that's happened up to now.
On the other hand, there are many reasons for Columbia to cooperate with the police: they want their students and the public to see that they take this issue seriously, and are doing all they can to get to the bottom of the matter, and they want to protect the safety and peace of mind of their students and employees. Imagine if YOU were an outraged student, and you heard that your own school was perhaps impeding the investigation. You would be angry.
Columbia administrators know this. Yet they *still* are holding back the tape, despite their undoubted awareness of how bad it looks to do so.
SO - There MUST be some school policy, an overly cautious school policy, disseminated by their legal counsel, not voluntarily to turn over information which may somehow subject them to liability. Although I think in this case there would be no liability, I think their position must be that they disseminate information only when *compelled,* this way there are no decisions to be made by Columbia administrators which can later be second-guessed or disfavorably analyzed.
81 posted on 10/11/2007 1:46:45 PM PDT by teledingo
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To: SmithL

The racist Blacks are setting themselves up for the whole “boy who cried wolf” deal and don’t realize it.


82 posted on 10/11/2007 2:02:57 PM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; SmithL

Al Sharpton did it?:)


83 posted on 10/11/2007 2:07:08 PM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing! Press Forward Mitt!)
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To: SmithL

Oh, it’s Ahmanutjob! No, he’d already left, darn!


84 posted on 10/11/2007 2:22:17 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: Melas

How were you correct?


85 posted on 10/11/2007 2:28:15 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is a clown car with guns.)
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To: SmithL

Why do I have a sneaky suspicion that she (the prof) did it herself? She has been teaching African-American studies of some kind. Maybe attendance is going down and she wants to keep racism at the front in news to justify her position and purpose at the school.

Why else would the school refuse to give the tape to the police?

God forgive me if I’m wrong.


86 posted on 10/11/2007 2:29:18 PM PDT by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: SmithL

Columbia has lost any credibility. Turn the tape over if you are sincere. Hiding it means you have something to hide.


87 posted on 10/11/2007 2:31:30 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy

Just curious, does Columbia University, in this day and age, actually employ any white heterosexual males? Seriously they can’t have a very big pool of politically correct suspects.


88 posted on 10/11/2007 2:42:36 PM PDT by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: Ingtar
I find myself in the odd position of supporting Columbia’s position in one respect: What is wrong with waiting to comply until after a warrant is issued? That is the legal way for the police to obtain this.

In a way I agree, but . . . if this showed somebody drive up in a car with a Bush sticker, it would be the lead video on every news outlet. I suspect there is something on the tape that will change the way this story is seen.

89 posted on 10/11/2007 3:54:28 PM PDT by feedback doctor (green is the new red. . .)
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To: Joann37

Her name was Kerri Dunn. Here is a photo, the story link, and a parody song mocking her - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302330/posts


90 posted on 10/11/2007 4:09:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: SmithL

Boy, I sure hope somebody doesn’t find a noose that isn’t empty before all this drives us nuts.


91 posted on 10/11/2007 4:11:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: SmithL

Update

Columbia reverses decision, will turn over tapes.

Amazing what persuasive power a little bitty subpoena has...

92 posted on 10/11/2007 4:29:53 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Columbia had the tape for over 24 hours before relenting. That’s plenty of time to eliminate the part that shows the perp. 10-1 the important part has been “accidentally” erased.


93 posted on 10/11/2007 5:33:35 PM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: teledingo
You must not be familiar with how Political Correctness works if you are not convinced that it's a good possibility that this is a phony racially-motivated incident based on the fact that the tape is being withheld from the investigators.

With those on the left, it's not the accuracy of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge. It doesn't matter if it really happened, but just that a black woman said an incident occured.

It flat-out doesn't even matter if the tape shows her sitting there in the hall weaving a rope from a spool of twine and tying the noose right in front of the camera. It will be still be believed that a racist white person did it, or in the very least that "Well, this still happens, so it doesn't matter if this one didn't." I guarantee that no one will go out of his way to clear up this "incident" were the tape to show it was perpetrated by the "victim".

The highest value incident to a race-baiter is a white man against a black woman. It's a combination of perceived power and social status of the particular demographics. But, ironically, if the woman is a wealthy professor, and the man a high school dropout, it's the same as if the man were the woman's boss. The perception is that the rich white man is just more sereptitious in his racism. It is a presumption that is hard to escape; that a white man is just naturally racist.

And a white man sure as hell better not say it didn't happen.

94 posted on 10/11/2007 8:26:14 PM PDT by Squeako (In the future, prisoners will create custom license plates with their thumbs on a phone.)
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To: 50mm
Columbia had the tape for over 24 hours before relenting. That’s plenty of time to eliminate the part that shows the perp. 10-1 the important part has been “accidentally” erased.

Oh, come on. Don't be so cynical. It will simply be a "malfunctioning camera".

95 posted on 10/11/2007 8:33:10 PM PDT by Squeako (In the future, prisoners will create custom license plates with their thumbs on a phone.)
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To: MoMagic
It has happened a lot. I think one dumbass wrote the epithet backwards on her own head ... while looking in a mirror. LOL!

It was a Nazi Swastika.

96 posted on 10/12/2007 12:46:53 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

I recall a woman who claims she was the victim of a racially motivated attack appears to have made the story up.

In Texas I think. She said two white men abducted her, sexually assaulted her, and scrawled the letters K-K-K into her - maybe head, maybe chest.

Come to find out the “K”s were backwards, and she confessed to doing it in a mirror at home.


97 posted on 10/12/2007 12:52:12 PM PDT by MoMagic
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To: MoMagic

Exactly.

Also, there is something called a subpoena. They can get a court order for it.


98 posted on 10/12/2007 12:56:23 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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