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"Everybody is right when it comes to the issue of abortion."

How convenient.
There is no right and wrong.
Everyone is right in his own eyes.
It's all legal, of course.
We are so civilized. So openminded, aren't we?

"My position on the subject is that I don't really know what's right. I didn't know much in the beginning... and at the end I was just as confused."

After seeing and filming defenseless human beings heartlessly dismembered, he's "confused."
That's all?

1 posted on 10/11/2007 9:00:04 AM PDT by XR7
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Related link: Jill Stanek on Lake of Fire
2 posted on 10/11/2007 9:02:32 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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If Almighty God played god like we play god, we would never have crawled out of the dust we came from.


3 posted on 10/11/2007 9:09:28 AM PDT by jonrick46
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I would take his comments with a grain of salt. He wants people from both sides to come see it, and if he comes out as being on one side, the other side will call it propaganda and not see it. If the movie does a good job of presenting both sides, it will be a good thing.


5 posted on 10/11/2007 9:21:03 AM PDT by Grig
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Kaye, who cut his teeth directing commercials and music videos,

“It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by twelve dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper.” - Rod Serling 1961

6 posted on 10/11/2007 9:23:41 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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7 posted on 10/11/2007 9:24:19 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
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Norma McCorvey has a lot of blood on her hands.


8 posted on 10/11/2007 9:24:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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Maybe someone was crude or cruel enough to accuse Norma of being resposible for all the dead babies....

..but I know this....Norma was used and discarded.

Sarah Weddington, attorney for Planned Parenthood/NARAL were looking for a 'test case' when Norma McCorvey became available .... and they did the rest.

I also know it was pro-lifers (specifically 2 daughters of pro-lifers) who reached out to 'Miss Norma' in love and acceptance and led her to repentance and God's forgiveness.

9 posted on 10/11/2007 9:27:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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America will be judged more harshly than Nazi Germany. Hitler paid his people the compliment of believing that his murders had to be concealed. They saw the inside of the death camps only AFTER the war. No one has concealed the abortion horror from the American people. The American people have seen the bloody, dismembered corpses for three decades and counting, and the majority are unmoved. And while Hitler’s murders were carried out by an inner circle of soldiers and police, America’s holocaust has been carried out by about 30% of ALL WOMEN, with the encouragement of about 30% of ALL MEN.


10 posted on 10/11/2007 9:55:52 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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MURDER IS WRONG.


14 posted on 10/11/2007 10:06:06 AM PDT by FES0844 (FES0844)
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The grisly abortion is supposedly counterbalanced by the girl killed by the coat hanger. Those deaths were few, yet abortion kills 1,300,000 per year and has killed nearly 50 million since the early 70s.

This was supposedly a "cure" for all the "back alley" abortions that killed thousands of lives. However, there were statistics about deaths from illegal abortions.

In 1973, the year of Roe, there were 39 deaths from illegal abortions.

The numbers decreased dramatically after the discovery of penicillin.

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18 posted on 10/11/2007 10:29:17 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, then we can win the presidency)
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Sounds like an interesting documentary, though. Seems as though the filmmaker did not take a Michael Moore approach. Instead, he let each side speak for themselves.
19 posted on 10/11/2007 11:41:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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where the grisly residue of an arm, a foot and part of a face can be clearly made out

If the reality of the "procedure" is so horrifying that it can barely be shown, then how can it possibly be thought of as acceptable?

What in God's name could be the social imperative that would legitimize such a thing?

20 posted on 10/11/2007 12:07:49 PM PDT by Regulator
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“It’s about as shocking as any motion picture can ever get. It’s illegal to film someone being killed,” said Kaye.
***My heart cries for these innocent little ones.


21 posted on 10/11/2007 12:43:49 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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22 posted on 10/11/2007 12:44:50 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Pro-Life PING

Please FreepMail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

25 posted on 10/11/2007 3:05:25 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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Even after spending years working on the project, Kaye, however, admits to not knowing where he stands in the debate.

So why bother to make the film?

Perhaps as a nice date movie?

27 posted on 10/11/2007 3:12:56 PM PDT by donna ("We can create Kingdom on earth" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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Even despite the confused film maker, I see this as a great thing.

By sitting firmly on the fence, he may well have an audience on both sides. It sounds like the film pretty well just lays it out there. And think about it, how many pro-aborts have ever had a good look at abortion?

So much of this industry never sees the light of day. Ironically, they desperately hide behind a veil of secrecy because revealing the truth would set people against abortion.

Any lifting of that veil is a good thing. Expose the truth and let the truth take on a life of its own. Hearts will be changed. Who cares what his personal views are as long as he brings this grisly practice out into the light.

28 posted on 10/11/2007 3:21:23 PM PDT by getitright
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At the end of the Book of Judges (OT) it says that there was not king in Israel so every man did what was right in his own eyes. Today, liberalism/democrap party says there is no God of right and wrong, so everyone should be authorized by the almighty government to do what is right in their own eyes paid for by government extorted taxes.


29 posted on 10/11/2007 3:22:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0841119/

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Remarkable, 11 September 2006

Author: Nick Van der Graaf from Toronto, Canada

Caveat: I have been a pro-choice activist for many years in my home country of Canada, and attended the “March for Women’s Lives” in Washington D.C. in 2004. Obviously I have a pretty solid opinion on this issue, but below I have tried to just talk about the film itself.

I saw this a couple of days ago at the Toronto Film Festival. I think it is an unflinching look at the how the battle over abortion rights has played out in the United States over the last 15 years or so. It was intended to be unbiased, an even-handed look at both sides of the issue. By and large, I think Kaye succeeded at this, but I would very much like to attend a screening of this film before an audience of committed pro-lifers to see what they think of it. I couldn’t help but think that nearly all the pro-lifers interviewed came across as deeply disturbed, with a couple of exceptions.

The film clocks in at over two and a half hours and could easily loose 30 minutes without taking away from the impact of the film. Similarly it ends dreadfully - overblown music and an utterly inconsequential shot - the director having missed the perfect spot to end it 5 minutes beforehand.

Shot entirely in black and white, there are several moments of stunning beauty, contrasting with the frequently dull and suburban backgrounds in which such a passionate battle is being waged by both sides.

Overall I would definitely recommend this film, but only after it is re-edited from its present version.

A last note: Tony Kaye was present at the screening and gave an utterly bizarre performance during the Q&A at the end of the movie. He stood at the mike, rubbing his face vigorously, making little sense and often at a loss for words. We were planning to ask questions but he was so out of it that we decided not to waste our time!

30 posted on 10/11/2007 3:40:48 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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In every man’s life, there is a point between dawn and sunset that he must stare intently at the sun.


31 posted on 10/11/2007 3:50:23 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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