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Who was Asa Coon?
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 10/10/07 | Scott Stephens and Rachel Dissell

Posted on 10/11/2007 12:15:56 AM PDT by raccoonradio

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What...doesn't everybody wear a dog collar around their neck...?

>>What apparently pushed Asa's troubled young mind over the edge was an argument with classmates about the existence of God. Asa said he didn't believe in God and didn't respect God.

Didn't live to hear that new Air America show for atheists...

1 posted on 10/11/2007 12:15:57 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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She is outgoing, blond and

She's a guy?

2 posted on 10/11/2007 12:21:44 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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"I thought he was just kidding," said Demar Tabb, 15, a classmate. "I probably should have said something, but I didn't think anything would actually happen."

Kids about ten years ago used to call it narcing, when they would report such individual behavioral problems to the school staff. It's a huge social no-no to do this, and many kids simply refuse to do it.

It seems to make more sense to them to watch one to twenty kids get shot down in cold blood. At least they didn't narc on someone.

3 posted on 10/11/2007 12:27:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: raccoonradio

This poor kid didn’t have a chance from day one. No dad, gangs, drugs, family violence.

How much money did they throw away on this boy? The best social nets are helpless in the face of family breakdown like this.

It’s so frustrating to me. I’ll bet nobody took this woman aside when she was young and said, don’t live with a guy, and don’t get pregnant without a committed husband. It’s so socially unacceptable to do that.

The establishment fix will be to put more restrictions on kids in school and throw more money at them. Useless.


4 posted on 10/11/2007 12:38:44 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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So... where’s his Dad?


5 posted on 10/11/2007 12:39:14 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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I'm taking this out of context..."But when he was bored, he would lash out.".......but it hit me that this is the BIG problem with pubic edumakayshun....too much boredom, no real teaching by too few real teachers.

MHO

FMCDH(BITS)

6 posted on 10/11/2007 1:59:57 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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I read a few other stories on this kid. He was a white kid named Coon with a psycho mother living in downtown Cleveland and going to a school that is almost entirely black. The squalid home life and psychotropic drug regimen were covered pretty well in the article you posted, but there are some more details in this AP story. It appears to me that this kid was used as a punching bag and pumped full of dangerous drugs.

Link: 5 Hurt, Gunman Killed in Ohio School

A 14-year-old suspended student, dressed in black, opened fire in his downtown high school Wednesday, wounding four people as terrified schoolmates hid in closets and bathrooms and huddled under laboratory desks. He then killed himself.

A fellow student at SuccessTech Academy alternative school said Asa H. Coon, who was suspended for fighting two days earlier, had made threats in front of students and teachers last week.

"He's crazy. He threatened to blow up our school. He threatened to stab everybody," Doneisha LeVert said. "We didn't think nothing of it."

Coon was armed with two .38 caliber revolvers, and police found a duffel bag stocked with ammunition and three knives in a bathroom, officials said. Parents were angry that firearms got into a school equipped with metal detectors that students said were intermittently used.

Officials said two teachers and two students were shot, and that a 14-year-old girl fell and hurt her knee while running out of the school.

Witnesses said the shooter moved through the converted five-story downtown office building, working his way up through the first two floors of administrative offices to the third floor of classrooms. Officials said he was wearing a black Marilyn Manson concert shirt, black jeans and black-painted finger nails.

The first person shot, student Michael Peek, had punched Coon in the face right before the shootings began, said student Rasheem Smith, 15.

Coon "came out of the bathroom and bumped Mike and he (Mike) punched him in his face. Mike started walking. He shot Mike in the side." Peek, 14, didn't know Coon had a gun, Smith said.

Antonio Deberry, 17, said he and his classmates hid under laboratory tables and watched the shooter move down the hallway. "I saw him walking past. He didn't see us, we saw him." The shooter swore and shot several times, Deberry said.

LeVert said she hid in a closet with two other students after she heard a "Code Blue" alert over the loudspeaker. She said she heard about 10 shots.

Darnell Rodgers, 18, was walking up to another floor when the stairway suddenly became flooded with students.

"It took me a couple of minutes to realize that I was actually shot, when I felt my arm burning in the area, that's when I realized that I had got shot," Rodgers said.

"They were screaming, and they were saying, 'Oh my God, oh my God.' I knew something was wrong, but thought that it was probably just a fight, so I just kept going," Rodgers said.

Rodgers was released from a hospital after treatment for a graze wound to his right elbow.

Coon had been suspended since Monday for fighting near the school that day, said Charles Blackwell, president of SuccessTech's student-parent organization. He did not know how Coon got into the building Wednesday.

Blackwell said that there was a security guard on the first floor, but that the position of another guard on the third floor had been eliminated.

Student Frances Henderson, 14, said she often got into arguments with Coon, who once told her, "I got something for you all." He was a "gothic" who usually wore a trench coat, black boots and a dog collar, she said.

Students stood outside the building, many in tears, hugging one another and on cell phones. Others shouted at reporters with TV cameras to leave them alone. Family members also stood outside, waiting for their children to be released.

Math teacher David Kachadourian, 57, was in good condition; Michael Grassie, a 42-year-old teacher, was in surgery, but his condition was unavailable. The other two injured teens were taken to a children's hospital, which would not release their names, ages or conditions.

Deberry's mother, Lakisha Deberry, said she was upset that metal detectors at the school were not always in use.

"You never know what's going on in someone's mind," said Deberry, adding that she was required to go through a metal detector and present an identification card whenever she wanted to drop off something at school for her children.

The shooting occurred across the street from the FBI office in downtown Cleveland, and students were being sent to the FBI site.

Classes at all schools in the Cleveland Metropolitan School District will be canceled Thursday, said Eugene Sanders, chief executive officer of the district. Counseling will be available Thursday for students at recreation centers throughout the city, Sanders said.

SuccessTech Academy is an alternative high school in the public school district that stresses technology and entrepreneurship. It is housed on several floors of the district's downtown Cleveland Lakeside Avenue administration building.

"It's a shining beacon for the Cleveland Metropolitan School system," said John Zitzner, founder and president of E City Cleveland, a nonprofit group aimed at teaching business skills to inner-city teens. "It's orderly, it's disciplined, it's calm, it's focused."

The school has about 240 mainly black students with a small number of white and Hispanic students.

Coon was white and Henderson, the student who said she frequently argued with him, is black, but she said she didn't believe race played a role in the shootings.

The school, opened five years ago, ranks in the middle of the state's ratings for student performance. Its graduation rate is 94 percent, well above the district's rate of 55 percent.

Associated Press writers James Hannah, Terry Kinney, Thomas J. Sheeran and Andrew Welsh-Huggins contributed to this report.

7 posted on 10/11/2007 2:03:20 AM PDT by TheMole
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8 posted on 10/11/2007 2:10:02 AM PDT by sport
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9 posted on 10/11/2007 2:10:10 AM PDT by sport
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yest another shooting that could have been avoided...


10 posted on 10/11/2007 2:11:00 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: raccoonradio

Talk about acting White. In a bad way. Normally, for whatever reason, folks who go on these random shooting sprees tend to be young While males.

Asa is closing the gap.


11 posted on 10/11/2007 2:40:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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Er...With a blonde twin sister, you might want to adjust your assumptions, there.


12 posted on 10/11/2007 2:59:35 AM PDT by Eepsy (The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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but it hit me that this is the BIG problem with pubic edumakayshun....too much boredom, no real teaching by too few real teachers.

This kid was supposedly in a charter magnet school for technology & entrepreneurship. Should have been more interesting than most.

Most of the kids who do this have absent or unavailable fathers and a history of mental problems, though. He fits the profile.

13 posted on 10/11/2007 3:05:16 AM PDT by Amelia
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Asa Coon was a kid that needed the direction a good father could of gave him. His mother was ill prepared too it seems (this opinion coming from a fellow that was raised by a strong handed mother that could tow the rope as needed).


14 posted on 10/11/2007 3:30:35 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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I had an Angry Young White Boy. Very smart, a loner, too much energy, bad grades and did not play well with others. The teachers and my wife wanted to put him on drugs and send him to counseling. I refused. Sand rails, dirt bikes, Jet Skis and mountain bikes are the best ways to deal with these kids. He is 30 now and treated me to a Steve Miller Band concert last weekend.


15 posted on 10/11/2007 3:30:40 AM PDT by Haddit (Hunter is the only conservative out there)
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All the money in the world and sometimes all the family love doesn’t help kids like this either.

I don’t know why they turn out like this, but both my brothers were crazy like this too. The family tried all they knew to do and it all failed.

Maybe it has to do with drinking, drugs, etc. during pregnancy or heavy metals that are known to create behavioral problems...

What I do know is if they don’t lash out in high-school like this, they lash out in their adult years typically ending in suicide. I lost one brother to suicide on a motorcycle and the other was suicide by cop.

They didn’t have or lacked a coping mechanism. Any little perceived slight to their ego would send them on a rage. I live(d) in fear for my life until last year when my brother pulled the suicide by cop.

To say he didn’t know about his ‘flaw’ is a lie. He had all the counseling etc. You could sit and talk with him and he would acknowledge it and admit he felt helpless to change it. Sometimes you could just see the ‘danger’ flash across his eyes. He became so good at hiding it from the professional therapists, that they would release him.

When all the interventions fail...they finally snap.

16 posted on 10/11/2007 3:34:05 AM PDT by EBH (Loose lips sink ships.)
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So sorry.


17 posted on 10/11/2007 3:59:04 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Democrats--Al Qaeda's best friends)
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To: EBH

That is really difficult. My husband was bipolar, and it was extremely hard to live with. The saving grace was I knew he would never hurt me or the kids, but I can’t tell you what he put us through.

To actually live with physical violence in your own house, well,that’s got to be scarring. It sounds like some kind of anger disorder, but that could be anything.

I’m glad things are better for you now, even though I’m sorry for the loss of your brothers. Keep looking forward.


18 posted on 10/11/2007 5:50:59 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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Maybe he had a reason to act White.


19 posted on 10/11/2007 6:09:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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