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Dobson Admits Third Party Might Help Clinton
The Christian Post ^ | October 10, 2007 | Ethan Cole

Posted on 10/10/2007 3:07:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Conservative evangelical leader Dr. James Dobson admits that a third-party plan supported by pro-family leaders might unintentionally help elect democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton.

The influential pro-family advocate still contends, however, that he would rather vote following his values than compromise and be forced to choose between two pro-choice candidates.

“We’re very, very concerned about the implications of a Hillary Clinton presidency, but you know, we have been working … for 35 years, I’ve been trying to defend the unborn child,” Dobson said on Fox’s Hannity & Colmes show Monday.

“That’s been my life. That’s been my belief, along with marriage and the family and the other things. I can’t now abandon that because we’ve got two bad choices here.”

Currently leading the Democratic race and Republican race are New York senator Hillary Clinton and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, respectively. Both have been criticized by conservatives for their pro-choice and pro-gay rights stances among other issues.

During a meeting in Salt Lake City, about 50 pro-family leaders decided they would consider backing a third-party candidate if the Republican Party chose a pro-choice nominee, such as Giuliani

In an Op-Ed in the New York Times last week, Dobson explained the coalition’s decision and the reasoning, stating that as “vitally important” as it is for the GOP to win the presidential election, it should not be won “at the expense of what we hold most dear.”

His announcement that a core Republican constituency could consider withdrawing their support from the party next year stirred controversy and created greater division in the already divided GOP.

“Why would we not support someone who does line up with our values system, when we would have to literally hold our noses to support somebody that contradicts those values?” Dobson posed to Hannity – who supports Giuliani despite agreeing with Dobson “99 percent” of the time.

When further pressed on the possibility that his third party plan could help Clinton, Dobson replied that the elections are still far away and elections are “very dynamic” and “volatile.”

“There’s still a possibility that one of those other candidates, a dark horse, could come from nowhere,” Dobson said.

As the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination, Giuliani has repeatedly stated he can beat Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton – an appealing statement for those who see Clinton as a larger threat.

A recent Gallup Poll also found that the former New York City mayor had an overall favorable rating from churchgoing Protestants. Among the top tier Republican candidates, Giuliani was rated third by religious Protestants after former senator Fred Thompson and Arizona senator John McCain.


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To: Jim Robinson

I agree, tearing down legitimate conservative candidates will get us nowhere (Rooty Toot is a different story); it’s time to promote candidates based on who they are, rather than on who they are not.

In a perfect world, Duncan Hunter would be the GOP nominee. However, in the REAL world, his campaign is going nowhere in a hurry. Fred Thompson will be the nominee, he will need a good running mate and hopefully it will be Hunter or Huckabee.


121 posted on 10/10/2007 5:15:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MNJohnnie
“Do you want the Court to continue being dominated by Leftist for the next 70 years or do you want Conservatives to hold the balance on the Court for the 1st time in 70 years?”

The argument we should be having is What document gave the supreme court authority over states rights? The supreme court has no authority except for what is in the constitution.

We are playing into the leftests hands again on this one. They own the courts. We shouldnt be debating our policies based on who is on the supreme court but what is explicitly written in the constitution.

The only way we are going to get out of this cycle of voting for the lesser of two evils is defend the law of the land - the constitution. Instead of electing a president who will appoint conservative judges we should elect someone who will enforce the constitution - We have become an oligarchy.

122 posted on 10/10/2007 5:15:38 PM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dobson’s getting creamed by Christians throughout America. He’s getting slapped around big time.


123 posted on 10/10/2007 5:15:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dobson’s getting creamed by Christians throughout America. He’s getting slapped around big time.


124 posted on 10/10/2007 5:15:53 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dobson’s getting creamed by Christians throughout America. He’s getting slapped around big time.


125 posted on 10/10/2007 5:15:56 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Nathan Zachary

So we agree, pastors should be able to say whatever they want political or otherwise.


126 posted on 10/10/2007 5:17:18 PM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: shield

Did you need to say it three times. Or do you studder when you talk to?


127 posted on 10/10/2007 5:18:21 PM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: Route66
I have no beef with Dr. Dobson, but why is he doing this now? It seems he is stirring the pot every couple of days

Actually, I made up my mind a long time ago that I could not vote for Rudy under any circumstances. I did not need any encouragement or assistance. It's called examining ones conscience. Surprise! Quite a few of us can make up our minds without instructions. We still know how to think a thing through.

128 posted on 10/10/2007 5:19:15 PM PDT by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Jim Robinson
Preach it!

“If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, then we can win the presidency.”


129 posted on 10/10/2007 5:21:54 PM PDT by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: sasafras

You can stop pretending. Pretty obvious you are a Moveon.org stoodge who is only hanging out here to pull the old “I’m a betrayed Conservative” fraud.

Waddle back to DU now Democrat.


130 posted on 10/10/2007 5:23:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: sasafras
I am glad that I am not the only one preaching the truth of how black our future will be, if we remain so divided. We do NOT have to back a liberal gun-grabbing baby killer... or any other liberal to defeat hildebeast. dobson is not wrong about the issue, but he wrong about the best path and he should be helping us to push the Republican Party in the right direction... not looking over at those of us pushing the POS jalopy that is the Republican Party... in the right direction. He threatens those of us doing the hard work of salvaging the Party that believes that UNBORN Americans have the Right to LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS. He has become part of the dark and evil forces destroying America today. He is a willing tool.
131 posted on 10/10/2007 5:24:11 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: doug from upland
Not quite accurate. The legacy is the disintegration of the Republican Party - a real self immolation caused by turning its back on the most basic of our rights - the right to life.
132 posted on 10/10/2007 5:26:02 PM PDT by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“That’s been my life. That’s been my belief, along with marriage and the family and the other things. I can’t now abandon that because we’ve got two bad choices here.”

On the Hannity radio show Dobson said something to the effect of “I wouldn’t know who I am anymore” meaning that a vote for Giuliani would cause him somehow to lose his sense of identity. This tells me he’s acting on pride.

Dobson is making this about himself, thus abandoning the Christian principles he has fought so hard for.

To control his own vote is exactly what he should do. But Dobson has significant influence over large numbers of people. If he keeps this up he will cause many of them to help elect Hillary, all because of his pride.


133 posted on 10/10/2007 5:28:03 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A leftist will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: tsmith130
If the 20% is killing unborn babies and banning guns... I KNOW that Reagan would say, “NO”! dobson is wrong about Fred... but he is 100% right when it comes to rootie. Having said that... dobson is only out for dobson... he is not the Christian man he portrays himself to be.

LLS

134 posted on 10/10/2007 5:29:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Waddle back to DU now Democrat.”

Ive been posting on here much longer than you. Its obvious that you cant debate. Heck I only thought that liberals like to call names when they cant make an argument but I guess there are some RINOs that are like that too. Pretty pathetic....


135 posted on 10/10/2007 5:35:23 PM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: Dreagon
“It’s pretty sad when the Republicans have to fear Christians standing by their principles”

it’s not fear of principles, but dealing with mis-guided use of those principles.

“If you want Hillary, then nominate Guliani”

It’s a matter that Dobson wants to give us Hillery whether we like it or not. He’s now in charge of the remote control.

136 posted on 10/10/2007 5:36:35 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: sofaman

You’re welcome. ;)


137 posted on 10/10/2007 5:37:34 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Per your personal page you appear to be a Dennis Miller type who only cares about the WOT IN IRAQ. Yeah WOT in Iraq but we let criminals and terrorists cross our border freely. Give me a break. Its obvious you lack the reasoning to debate thoughtfully. Dont even ping me wacko.


138 posted on 10/10/2007 5:41:37 PM PDT by sasafras (All things evil are cloaked in the word diversity)
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To: Jim Robinson
The shame is on those who will support a liberal abortionist for president over a pro-life conservative when they know damned well that there are millions of pro-life Christians out there who will never vote for abortion.

That may well be.

But while there may be grounds to chastize those who will support someone who turns a deaf ear to abortion, the fact remains that there is not a critical mass to out number those who support someone whose platform is not pro-life.

President Bush has failed to change the hearts and minds of the citizens. I was going to say in his efforts, but he really hasn't used the bully pulpit in that manner. So after almost 7 years of a pro-life presidency, there really has not been all that much movement. And we're on the cusp of having a Clinton calling the White House home after those 7 years.

It will probably come down to the lesser of two evils in many peoples eyes. But staying at home or voting a third party will be like peeing in your pants. A warm feeling for a few moments, but ultimately you're left with nothing more than cold soggy clothes.

Look at what happened to those handful of people who voted third party for Nader in 2000. For us, it was good news. For them, they lost the White House.

139 posted on 10/10/2007 5:49:38 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Jim Robinson
“If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, then we can win the presidency.”

That would make a great bumper sticker. How about his one:

“Vote Third party so Hillary can keep murdering children!”


Dobson and his colleagues will have to do more than make threats to hand the election to Hillary Clinton. Are they supporting a conservative, pro-life candidate who can win the Republican nomination? Will they help him win the general election? Long-term, do they have a plan for overturning Roe v. Wade?
140 posted on 10/10/2007 5:56:30 PM PDT by Logophile
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