That reminds me of something...
Posted on 10/10/2007 10:27:43 AM PDT by madprof98
New York U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton is one of the most loathsome modern American politicians, given her barely disguised support for massive government programs, her grating schoolmarm personality and her aggressive political behavior, yet I'm left hoping that she obliterates any of the front-running Republican candidates and has long-enough coattails to expand Democratic control of the Senate and House of Representatives.
Unless Republican candidate Ron Paul —- the only supporter of liberty in the bunch of GOP ne'er do wells —- somehow propels his impressive Internet campaign into an improbable electoral victory, there is nothing else, but a Clinton victory, that will save the Republican Party and help rebuild the nation's long-suffering freedom movement.
How can an enemy of freedom help freedom?
Well, when you've got a headache, you take an aspirin. When you've got the flu, you take something a little stronger. When you've got cancer, you need chemotherapy, which kills cancer cells but can come perilously close to killing the patient. It's a sad truth, but the Republican Party has the political equivalent of cancer.
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A Guiliani victory--indeed, a victory by any of the top GOP candidates--would cement the party's totalitarian tendencies. Even the party's social conservative wing, its most powerful grass-roots force, is ready to bolt if Giuliani gets the nomination.
Religious Right notables such as Focus on the Family's James Dobson and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer met recently in Salt Lake City to discuss backing a third-party candidate. These folks are no friends of liberty, either. Still, their defection could assure that increasingly likely Clinton victory.
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The bottom line in this upcoming election may come down to a simple choice of survival. We've got to have an intact Republic that values and preserves individual liberty and a viable representative government based on the Constitution in order to fight for our principles in the political arena. With Hillary! as President, I really, really fear that we won't have that.
Only if you have a country in the form we've inherited from the Founders within which you can effect change. If you replace a Constitutional Republic with a socialist dictatorship, I don't think you're going to have much luck effecting much change.
I’m old and eventually headed to hell anyway, but I don’t want to endure eight years of hell on earth first, thank you.
“it is better to be a principled winner than a principled loser.”
False comparison.
The real question is “Would you rather be an UNprincipled winner or a principled loser?” Answer that question.
The Democrats have already given their answer. Are you any different?
I will stick by my principles. You can stick to your principles and still be a winner in the election. I don’t see why you insist that we choose to be losers and stand on principles. Yours is a false choice. The choices are, a principled winner, a principled loser, an unprincipled winner, or an unprincipled loser. I am saying that given the choices we face, we can be principled winners if we beat Hillary. And that is why I maintain that the number one principle in the upcoming election to stand on is: defeat Hillary. Because if we don’t, there won’t be much left to defend with a principled stand.
We don’t get to be governed by the loooooozers.
So you just defeat Hillary, and it makes no difference if her vanquisher stands for the same things as Hillary, like uncontrolled spending, leftist judges, amnesty and open borders, globalization that has all our products and foodstuffs under the control of a future enemy, etc.?
In your menu of binary enumeration, you just picked number three - unprincipled winner, and just pushed down the road an even more overwhelming defeat by a Hillary clone.
The only desirable option is a principled winner, and you’d better find one soon or 2006 is going to look like a Republican landslide by comparison.
George Bush is in trouble because, with the exception of the war, he has drifted away from (or cleverly camouflaged) the principles people thought they were voting for.
Would I prefer Hillary's vanquisher to be mainly aligned with what I believe? Of course. That's why I've said in the past I'd prefer our candidate to be someone like Thompson, who seems to align with a fair number of issues and seems the most viable national candidate. But even if our candidate is not completely aligned with all of my beliefs on the various issues, I will still vote to defeat Hillary, because with someone other than Hillary at least I have a fighting chance at survival and a chance to influence policy along the lines of my principles. That doesn't mean abandoning principles. You stick with them and fight for them, but you have a better chance that they will be at least considered, and perhaps acted upon. With Hillary, I have none of that. And you won't either. People around here better get that through their heads, and quick. Look at the things she says and does. You think you're going to have any chance with her? Forget it. With anyone else? Maybe. Note: maybe. Not certain, but maybe.
“Golly, cal, don’t the Rooty Tooters look cute in their Night of the Living Dead Halloween costumes?”
I stated right up front that I don’t have a candidate yet. What I wrote is just what I see happening. If Rudy gets the nod, and loses it alienates the values voters. If Rudy gets the nod and wins, the values voters are instantly marginalized.
That reminds me of something...
Those pushing Rudy are banking that voters are
1) too stupid to know what binary enumeration means and
2) think that anyone with an "R" by their name is "winning."
;-)
I’ll support the Republican candidate too but the GOP deserves a loss if that is what happens simply because they haven’t learned how to fight back.
That sucks. I guess conservatives now suck just like Hillary sucks.
I think I will sleep in on election day.
Yawn
Conversely, anyone who doesn't care if Hillary is elected, or harbors some vain notion that if Hillary wins then we will somehow come back "stronger" in the next election, is whistling past the graveyard. Listen to what she says and look at the things she does. You really think that someone like Hillary has any interest at all in preserving the Republic we have now? All of what she says and writes (read her undergrad thesis sometime) indicates otherwise. You really think you'll have any chance at all influencing policy with an avowed socialist/Marxist sitting behind that desk at 1600?
So go ahead and laugh and mock and post your silly pictures. When you've helped elect Hillary to the highest office of the land, and she comes after everyone (including you) who would dare oppose her, maybe you'll hear a faint echo of "I told you so" from those of us who tried to warn you.
OMG———Living Dead Rooty is right——Rooty looks like should have been buried weeks ago.
I hope it wasn’t a painful death (snicker).
Mmmmm........as a conservative, I say "be prepared."
I suggest Rooty plan now on getting help later.
A 12-step program can do wonders to help Rooty get back his self-esteem.
Note to RNC:
The “Hillary is the Boogieman” will not work in promoting Giuliani.
If ya want to “win,” back a conservative, or at least someone who supports the Republican platform.
YeEEEEooowww! pATHOOEY. Wash your mouth out with acid. That’s as rank a thought as I’ve heard in a few decades now. I suspect that thought might even give Bill the dry heaves.
If Rudy gets the nod and wins, ALL CONSERVATIVES get marginalized as RUDY IS A LIBERAL!
And, for the record, check your post again. You said that he was acceptable to moderate Republicans. I contend he is "acceptable" only because those folks are too busy to look at his actual record and have no clue what he actually stands for, instead listening to fallacious talking points (and the liberals who would be perfectly happy with his autocratic form of governing and liberalism).
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