Posted on 10/10/2007 9:45:30 AM PDT by finnman69
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday Rudy Giuliani with a growing advantage in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination. Giuliani is supported by 27% of Likely Primary Voters, his highest daily total in over a month. Fred Thompsons support has dipped to 17%, his lowest total since early June. This is not a result of last nights debate since results are reported on a four-day rolling average basis. However, each of the four individual nights poll results were a bit weaker for Thompson than the night before.
The last time Giuliani had a double-digit edge over Thompson was in mid-May. That was before the debate over immigration sank McCains campaign and the Arizona Senator was in second place.
Mitt Romney has moved to within a point of Thompson at 16% while John McCain got back into double digits at 11%. Mike Huckabee earns the vote from 6% (see recent daily numbers).
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I'm trying to understand how Giuliani can ONLY be at 27% with all the free shilling he gets from the likes of Sean Hannity, Dennis Miller, Phil Hendrie, et al., and..oh... did I forget to mention pretty much the entire MSM.
Right. Thompson didn't embarrass himself last night but he didn't stand out either. As the new guy, he needed to give people a reason to vote for him. He didn't. He was just one of the crowd.
No, calm down, actually I don't. I prefer Laura Ingraham's style to Ann's, personally. While I like her, I think that Ann, and a few other media personalities, can do us more harm than good *at times.* But she happens to be right on this.
It's humorous, though, to watch everyone throw her (along with all the other previously conservative items) under the bus because she's rejected the "chosen one" around here.
Ann joins former conservative James Dobson and Ted Olsen on this list of the Damned...
I'm still trying to figure out the chart options in Excel 2007, but this is what I have so far using the Rasmussen data.
lol, that's a good one too. It's times like this I wish I was a political cartoonist.
~ ditto ~
Americans also like whores. I think the Democrats have the same FEELINGs. Give me a break. Take a shower, Rudy is only a person that ain’t a conservative.
It may come down to having to rally around Romney just to keep out Giuliani.
It may be Rudys to lose but if so he is going to lose it. A large part of his support is name recognition. That advantage will disappear before the first voting.
Six months ago I would agree with you, but aren’t we less than 90 days until the first vote is cast. I cannot believe that Thompson has no kicked butt like all the FREEPERS said he was going to. It has been said that he practiced for two weeks for the debate last night...What happened???? All these excuses were said in 2006 and unfortunately I believed the statements only to be “hit in the face” with reality on election day. FREEPERS need to take the rose colored glasses off. Trust me I hope that Fred is the winner of the primaries, but hoping is different than actuality. Results are needed NOW!!!!
If you throw a ball straight up it rises, for a while. But even as it is going up, sensible people know it is coming back down. The same is true of Rudy’s candidacy.
Your own post indicates that much of Rudy’s appeal is based on the idea that he is the best man to take Hillary on. That idea is pure nonsense and sooner or later most Republicans will realize that and turn away from Rudy.
Look around FreeRepublic and any number of other conservative sites for evidence that a significant number of loyal Republicans won’t be voting for him. Consider the exit polling data from the last two presidential elections which give ample evidence of the degree to which the social issues contributed to President Bush’s two narrow victories. How do you think Rudy can make up for losing the voters he alienates?
Do you think he can do it by being an “incredibly intelligent and powerful public speaker?” Not happening. Even if he were an intelligent speaker, that and five bucks would buy him a nice cup of coffee. In reality, Rudy is the most muddled Republican presidential candidate since Gerald Ford, Bob Dole included.
His strong suit is supposed to be the law and he doesn’t even understand that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided. Just last night he blundered by arguing as if a Supreme Court decision were entirely dispositive of a constitutional issue, something nobody who understands the limits of the judicial role could do.
Rudy is a fairly ordinary legal bureaucrat with an entirely pedestrian mind who shows no capacity to transcend the leftism of his home town. In his entire career he has never said anything with enough depth to be memorable. Where’s the vaunted power in his speech?
Run down Rudy’s twelve principles. Every one’s a platitude and none of them even hints at any special capacity to be an effective presidential candidate or an effective president if elected. Giuliani can’t be much of a communicator because he has nothing much to communicate.
Republicans aren’t going to beat Hillary with a themeless but divisive pudding like Rudy. They will realize that eventually and when they do, the Giuliani bubble will burst.
What happens then is anybody’s guess. Either Thompson or Romney will probably get the nomination largely by default. One of them will follow a trajectory something like John Kerry’s in 2004 and win by being the last plausible guy standing when the voting starts.
Whichever one wins in the end will be a vastly stronger candidate than Rudy could ever be. Romney has much more native intelligence and he has positioned himself so that he has a shot at unifying the GOP. Thompson has a great deal more depth and started out positioned to unify the party.
I don’t quite understand what you were looking for that you haven’t seen to date in the Thompson campaign. Is he the “narcotic” candidate to which you refer? If so that’s an argument that reeks of panic and the bad judgment to which panic leads.
We aren’t going to beat Hillary by battering her with great energy and passion. That will whip up the faithful on both sides as it makes the rest of the country turn away in disgust. A winning candidate will speak to the American people about important things calmly, sensibly and with dignity. Rudy is hardly the guy for that job description.
Get off the Rudy bus. It’s a one way ride to nowhere.
Must be all that support and money Rooty's getting from Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is in the Strategic Energy Ellipse and is a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization with China and Russia; an oil and gas focal point of influence between the West and the East.....Kazahstan also has vast uranium stores and is banking on being a nuclear-transit corridor that president Rooty can help with (/sarc).
KAZAKH KASH
By CARL CAMPANILE NY Post
September 22, 2007
Rudy Giuliani is reaching out to Borat's glorious nation of Kazakhstan to make benefit his presidential campaign. The campaign will throw a fund-raiser in Kazakhstan on Wednesday. "Rudy will be holding a live teleconference with supporters," fund-raising chief Roy Bailey said in a letter to supporters. Giuliani's law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, has two offices in Kazakhstan. http://www.nypost.com/seven/09222007/news/nationalnews/kazakh_kash.htm
PLUS all the support Rooty's getting around the globe.
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Meet Global Rudy. Here's The Rudester's global connections (that we know of):
(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),
(2) Giuliani Group,
(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),
(4) Giuliani-Van Essen,
(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests),
(6) Bracewell & Giuliani has two offices in Kazakhstan (a former Soviet state in Central Asia), and,
(7) Giuliani Security & Safety, Asia
Bracewell & Giuliani's Almaty, Kazakhstan (in Central Asia) January closings totalled $1.625 Billion---they have two offices there). NOTE WELL: ROOTY HELD A CAMPAIGN FUND-RAISER IN KAZAKHSTAN.
Bracewell & Giuliani's Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company (lobbied for Privatization of Toll Road in Texas)
Bracewell & Giuliani's Banco Santander Central Hispano, S.A. (SAN.MC, STD.N) (a bank that traded with a blacklisted Iranian Bank)
Bracewell & Giuliani's company tied to Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush "the devil." Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez.
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Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas
DALLAS (March 1, 2007) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Texas-based law firm with global connections) advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties.
The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1803916/posts
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Construction of Hway in Mexico
NASCO Map of Corridor
NASCO Members: United States: Texas Dept. of Transportation Iowa Department of Transportation State of Oklahoma Minnesota Dept. of Transportation Bell County, Texas Denton County, Texas Tarrant County, Texas Webb County, Texas Jackson County, Missouri City of Denton, Texas City of Ft. Worth, Texas City of Gainesville, Texas City of Kansas City, Missouri International Trade Institute of the Americas Free Trade Alliance San Antonio Port San Antonio United States - Mexico Chamber of Commerce Kansas City SmartPort The Ardmore Development Authority, City of Ardmore, Oklahoma Belton Economic Development Corporation The Des Moines Area Metropolitan Planning Organization The Allen Group Hillwood - Alliance Texas The Ambassador Bridge Detroit/Windsor Crossing American Airlines Blackwood, Langworthy & Tyson, an established Kansas City law firm Cadre Technologies Franco Eleuteri & Associates EWI Risk Services, Inc. GrowthNet Trading, LLC International Bank of Commerce Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores PROTECT-US, Inc. Scrub Oak Technologies Strasburger & Price Law Firm Trans Am Group Yellow Roadway Corporation Worldwide The NAFTA Superhighway
AND NASCO member Lockheed Martin (the only Pentagon defense contractor listed)
Rudy is going to lose Iowa badly. I know that.
How dare Rudy reach out to Americans who live overseas! /sarc
I REALLY hate Giuliani - ESPECIALLY since his responses to the NRA.
The man is as anti-gun as Hillary and that won’t sell with the South, the West or with me.
Let her beat him and we’ll run a better candidate in four years.
Chou JulieAnnie!!!!
I’m not going to convince you, you are not going to convince me. Let’s leave it at that. One of us will be right.
And he will never recover from it. Someone will emerge from Iowa just as Kerry did in 2004 and it won’t be Rudy.
I NEVER said that I trashed her nor did I say anything about her other than I pointed out that on serious CONSERVATIVE ISSUES such a SCOTUS, she has been proved wrong (every now and again) by history. Now supposedly Ann has turned on Fred. If she has (and she said on O’Reilly a week ago that she liked Thompson, so I will have to see her exact words on Fred), then she is wrong on Fred. When mitt and rootie appear at the Convention to back Fred... I’ll ping you to this post and how absolutely wrong you are! Fred will be the next POTUS because he is the only man that can unite our party... not an empty $2800.00 suit or a gun-grabbing baby-killer! If Fred is not the next POTUS... hildebeast will be.
LLS
Iowa only has 41 delegates. Giuliani is not concerned with it because his strategy is to take Super Tuesday. Voting in New Jersey, for example, where he has a 30% lead, will not be affected by what happens in Iowa...
If you want to replay 2004 and assign roles, I see Thompson as Dean, not Rudy, Thompson is the newcomer.
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