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'The Trouble Is the West' Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Islam (must read)
https://www.reason.com/news/show/122457.html ^ | Rogier van Bakel

Posted on 10/10/2007 9:16:05 AM PDT by ventanax5

Reason: George Bush, not the most conciliatory person in the world, has said on plenty of occasions that we are not at war with Islam.

Hirsi Ali: If the most powerful man in the West talks like that, then, without intending to, he’s making radical Muslims think they’ve already won. There is no moderate Islam. There are Muslims who are passive, who don’t all follow the rules of Islam, but there’s really only one Islam, defined as submission to the will of God. There’s nothing moderate about it.

Reason: So when even a hard-line critic of Islam such as Daniel Pipes says, “Radical Islam is the problem, but moderate Islam is the solution,” he’s wrong?

Hirsi Ali: He’s wrong. Sorry about that. Reason: The international corollary to the word tolerance is probably respect. The alleged lack of respect has become a perennial sore spot in relations between the West and Islam. Salman Rushdie receiving a British knighthood supposedly signified such a lack of respect, as did the Danish cartoons last year, and many other things. Do you believe this is what Muslims genuinely crave—respect?

Hirsi Ali: It’s not about respect. It’s about power, and Islam is a political movement.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ayaanhirsiali; crushislam; hirsiali; islam; muslims; reason; reasonmagazine
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1 posted on 10/10/2007 9:16:15 AM PDT by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5
There are Muslims who are passive, who don’t all follow the rules of Islam, but there’s really only one Islam, defined as submission to the will of God Allah.

Don't feel bad, many people make that mistake.

2 posted on 10/10/2007 9:21:29 AM PDT by magslinger (I will not submit.)
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To: ventanax5

good read, bookmark


3 posted on 10/10/2007 9:28:35 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: ventanax5
Everyone should read her book, Infidel.
4 posted on 10/10/2007 9:30:20 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: ventanax5

bttt GReat Interview


5 posted on 10/10/2007 9:40:05 AM PDT by Remole
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To: ventanax5
I just hope she has body guards, and armed herself.

5.56mm

6 posted on 10/10/2007 9:42:49 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ventanax5

A lot of things here get a ‘must read’ label. Very glad I took heed of it here. This man needs a job at the Pentagon and at Foggy Bottom.


7 posted on 10/10/2007 9:45:54 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ventanax5
It’s not about respect. It’s about power, and Islam is a political movement.

BINGO!!!
8 posted on 10/10/2007 9:48:16 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: magslinger

ping


9 posted on 10/10/2007 9:51:06 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: knighthawk

Ping


10 posted on 10/10/2007 9:51:15 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*RWVA)
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To: RinaseaofDs

She is not a man:) She is under a death threat by islam for telling the truth about islam and for telling how abused women are under its rule. She was in the US for a short time but had to leave because we wouldn’t giver her protection. She is very brave and tells it like it is.


11 posted on 10/10/2007 9:58:43 AM PDT by calex59
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Wow. My apologies, sincerely. I guess to foggy bottom, her admonitions here look self-serving:

Since, in her opinion, there is no moderate Islam, they should have no fear of extending her protection and asylum. No one there willing, politically, to upset the apple cart with the putatively ‘moderate’ muzzies that sell us oil.


12 posted on 10/10/2007 10:31:11 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

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13 posted on 10/10/2007 11:15:50 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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bumo


14 posted on 10/10/2007 11:26:36 AM PDT by fso301
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To: calex59

Islam is the religion of violins,not peas. Mohammed was, at best, a warrior (peas be upon him).


15 posted on 10/10/2007 12:21:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (We don't fix the problem, we fix the blame!)
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

16 posted on 10/10/2007 1:52:30 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: ventanax5

Are you listening Mr President? Or do you only listen to the sheiks?


17 posted on 10/10/2007 1:56:37 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: ventanax5

I don’t agree with her call for the government to close all Muslim schools in the US.

That said, I don’t disagree with her description of the majority of Muslims as passive, rather than “moderate”, followers of Islam.

While not fanatics themselves, neither do they oppose the fanatics.


18 posted on 10/10/2007 3:14:12 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: ventanax5

Awesome linked interview, THANKS!!!


19 posted on 10/10/2007 5:52:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; bayouranger; Badray; Bear_Slayer; ...
Forgive me for using the CW2 ping list to request that you read something not strictly CW2 related.

Unless you allow me to posit that the crushing of Islam within the USA some years hence will contain elements of a CW.

In any event, the interview is quite remarkable and I really hope you will take the time to read it.

Thanks for your forbearance in advance,
Travis/Matt

20 posted on 10/10/2007 5:59:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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