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The Same God?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22748 ^ | Cal Thomas

Posted on 10/10/2007 6:22:49 AM PDT by Finally Awake

Whatever else his critics say of him, no one can fault President Bush for failing to go the extra mile in his efforts to show that neither he, nor the United States, is opposed to the Islamic faith, or to Muslim nations.

Last week, the president and Mrs. Bush hosted their seventh Iftaar Dinner, the celebration that breaks the Muslim fast during Ramadan. Immediately after 9/11, the president visited a Washington, D.C., mosque and proclaimed Islam a “religion of peace.” He has frequently said that terrorists are not real Muslims, anymore than people who proclaim to be Christian and engage in violence are genuine Christians.

The president is the most openly evangelical Christian and faithful churchgoer since Jimmy Carter. And the evangelical community has mostly embraced him and twice voted for him in overwhelming numbers. But that constituency is likely to be troubled over something the president said in an interview with Al Arabiya television. In an official transcript released by the White House, the president said, “…I believe in an almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God.” Later in the interview, the president repeated his statement: “I believe there is a universal God. I believe the God that the Muslim prays to is the same God that I pray to. After all, we all came from Abraham. I believe in that universality.”Continued

To paraphrase a remark often attributed to the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, everyone is entitled to his or her own faith, but everyone is not entitled to define the central doctrines of that faith. The doctrines of what is called Christianity not only stand in stark contrast to Islam, they also teach something contrary to what the president says he believes.

It is one thing to try to reach out to moderate and sincerely peaceful Muslims. It is quite another to say the claims of your own faith are of no greater importance than the often contradictory claims of another faith. If we all worship the same God, the president should answer the call of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Osama bin Laden, convert to Islam and no longer be a target of their wrath. What difference would it make if we all worship the same God?

Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (carm.org) has created a useful chart that shows the conflicting claims of classic Christian belief and Muslim doctrines. It is worth studying whatever one’s faith.

The central doctrine of the Christian faith is that God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die for sinners and by repenting of sin and accepting Christ as Savior, one is “saved” and is guaranteed a home in Heaven. Muslims do not believe God had a son and, therefore, no atonement for sin is necessary. Muslims believe simply telling God one is sorry and repenting of sin is enough, if one also lives up to the five “pillars” of Islam. Furthermore, according to Muslims, Jesus did not die on a cross (as Christians believe); instead, God allowed Judas to look like Jesus and it was Judas who was crucified.

Evangelical Christians believe the Bible is God’s Word and is without error in the original manuscripts. Muslims respect the word of the prophets, but claim the Bible has been corrupted (mostly by Jews) and is only correct insofar as it agrees with the Koran.

God calls himself “I Am” and says He is one, but with three personalities. Muslims believe God’s name is Allah and reject the Trinity.

How can the president say that we all worship the same God when Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, whom the president accepts as the One through whom all must pass for salvation? Do both political parties have the same beliefs? Are all baseball teams equal (clearly not, because only two will go to the World Series)?

The president can be commended for sincerely reaching out to Muslims, but he should not be commended for watering down his beliefs and the doctrines of his professed faith in order to do so. That’s universalism. There are “churches” that believe in universalism, his Methodist church does not. No Christian who believes the Bible believes in universalism. And No Muslim who believes the Koran does either.

President Bush is wrong -- dangerously wrong -- in proclaiming that all religions worship the same God.


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To: Nathan Zachary
Allah does not mean “God” in Arabic. the arabic word for “God” is lah.

I believe Al lah is The God.

41 posted on 10/10/2007 6:06:22 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Explain.


42 posted on 10/10/2007 6:45:33 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace

Did you read the citations? They explain better than I can.


43 posted on 10/10/2007 7:00:07 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: silentbob

Bob:

If the Jews (or anyone for that matter) deny that the Jesus of 2000 years ago is the incarnate Son of Yahweh, they worship a false God.

Jesus Himself said that to deny Him was to deny the One who sent Him. Really, he doesn’t get much plainer than that. It really doesn’t take an “institutionally trained theologian” to figure that out. Martin Luther said something about the theology of a child armed with a proper knowledge of the Scripture.

The modern Jews worship a god that they have created; a violation of the First Commandment. Doesn’t mean they aren’t included in salvation...they just need to be convinced (repent of their false god).


44 posted on 10/10/2007 7:12:40 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Finally Awake

Guess Bush could have said: Actually I worship the true and loving God and Muslims worship a twisted, hatefully violent false god who is really Satan in disguise. Now, we need the help of moderate Muslim countries to join with us in fighting terrorism. Any takers?


45 posted on 10/10/2007 10:08:16 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

If that’s the case, then you have an unintelligible argument.

Apparently you are having a private interpretation of scripture and thinking others can see the same things you do.

You have taken verses intended to be applied to individuals and tried to apply them to all Jewish people as a group. That is a misinterpretation and you completely overlook Jeremiah 31:33-37, which makes clear that God has made an everlasting covenant with Israel, which covenant is still to be fulfilled. It turns your anti-semitic rant on its ear.

The Identity Doctrine you seem to be espousing, which you have learned at your New Testament Only church, has much more in common with racism than with God.


46 posted on 10/11/2007 4:04:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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