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Abortion Ban Will Never Happen; Pro-Life Movement Needs New Plan
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| October 8, 2007
| Dan Calabrese
Posted on 10/08/2007 7:29:07 AM PDT by Dukes Travels
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To: Dukes Travels
"I believe a fetus is a human being who deserves protection under the law from being killed. But if the goal is to save the lives of unborn children and it should be we need to look at our primary line of attack and see what it has achieved..." Given the premise of the article that abortion will never be banned yet lives need to be saved, then this is what needs to be done and can be achievable.
- No more federal money for abortions
- The State cannot give abortions to minors without parental notification of both the girl and the boy.
- The girl, boy, and their respective parents must all meet to discuss the issue with counselors.
That's not a solve all in the above but it puts responsibility of pregnancy into the hands of those involved. It's a start.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:34:15 AM PDT
by
avacado
(Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
To: Dukes Travels
And I would like to add there is one more thing that can be done. DO NOT LET HILLARY INTO THE WHITEHOUSE. She will 100% federally fund abortions in her healthcare scam and appoint abortion-mill Supreme Court judges.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:36:11 AM PDT
by
avacado
(Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
To: Dukes Travels
In the short term, he’s right, but in the long term lots of things can happen. We should never give up the goal of legal protection for the unborn. Ultimately, we can win that one, but not if we give it up as a long term goal.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:37:53 AM PDT
by
puroresu
(Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
To: Dukes Travels
I have long agreed with the main premise of this article: abortion will never be banned. That is why I have advocated a competing right for males: the paper abortion.
To: Dukes Travels
I think legal recognition of personhood is the right way to go. It would shift the debate from a woman's body to who is the unborn and does it have rights? We won't make much progress if we are seen as anti-woman and motivated by a desire to run her life. We'd be better off arguing our understanding of when life begins has grown significantly since 1973 and now its time to revisit the question of personhood.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:43:40 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
As it stands right now, someone renting a home has more legal rights than an unborn, and has an extensive system of due process before they can be evicted. If abortion were legally treated like evicting someone in the middle of a harsh winter, that would be a giant step towards improving the lot of the unborn.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:46:41 AM PDT
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: avacado
***The girl, boy, and their respective parents must all meet to discuss the issue with counselors***
If both kids and both sets of parents get involved, the baby will live.
BUT, If a government school counselor gets involved, the baby will die.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:47:04 AM PDT
by
Mrs.Z
To: Dukes Travels
Electing Presidents that will nominate pro-life judges is the only way to fight this battle.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:48:19 AM PDT
by
ontap
(Just another backstabbing conservative)
To: puroresu
Yup. Good post.
Freegards
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:49:36 AM PDT
by
Ransomed
(Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
To: Mrs.Z
"If both kids and both sets of parents get involved, the baby will live. BUT, If a government school counselor gets involved, the baby will die." I agree it's has to more than just some counselor. I want the boy, girl, and parents involved. I think this will cause seconds thoughts on even having sex. There has to be responsibility brought into the act. And it's a good age to teach kids responsibility for the bigger world ahead.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:49:56 AM PDT
by
avacado
(Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
To: goldstategop
It would shift the debate from a woman's body to who is the unborn and does it have rights?You can rest assured of one thing...advocates of abortion will never let us shift the focus off "a woman's body."
To: papertyger
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:51:18 AM PDT
by
Hildy
("man's reach exceeds his grasp"? It's a lie: man's grasp exceeds his nerve.)
To: papertyger
They don't want to end abortion but they have NO answer to the question of the unborn as a person. Ask a Leftist about it and you get a blank stare.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:52:12 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: avacado
All of your solutions are good and would be voted in by the electorate of every state -
but, the courts have ruled every one of them as a burden and prohibitive barrier to “obtain health care”.
And, since the courts, being filled with the elite of our society, know better than the electorate, we should all just shut up and live by their dictates.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:53:25 AM PDT
by
MrB
(You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
To: ontap
Electing Presidents that will nominate pro-life judges is the only way to fight this battle.That is the very route that has failed.
To: Dukes Travels
their plan should be, taking back our schools, teaching abstinance as an option, and putting back a social stigma on being a under 18 pregnant woman.
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:55:51 AM PDT
by
television is just wrong
(deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
To: MrB
"All of your solutions are good and would be voted in by the electorate of every state - but, the courts have ruled every one of them as a burden and prohibitive barrier to obtain health care. That is just sooooo scary. I don't care if it's abortion or some other type of surgery/operation, the State has no right to touch my kid without notifying me. In Texas they still have to notify the parent of a minor having an abortion. At least I think so????
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:56:58 AM PDT
by
avacado
(Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
To: television is just wrong
Actually, it seems to me that a lot of abortions probably happen because of the stigma. Ironically, the lessening of the stigma may reduce the number of abortions.
To: Dukes Travels
It is ALL about the judges.
Who are the friends and associates of the candidates.
Are they collegue with a Ginsberg or an Alito?
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posted on
10/08/2007 7:59:19 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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