Posted on 10/07/2007 8:01:14 PM PDT by JSDude1
President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.
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Congratulations! You have just discovered the "free will" vs. "predetermination" argument. It comes up in about every third session of every bible study I've ever attended. Both "free will" and "predetermination" are absolutely biblical yet the conflict can not be resolved rationally. Many have tried - all have failed. It is one of those eternal mysteries we won't know until we meet Jesus face to face.
Thank you for questioning my faith and referring to it as a cult. Nice to know that not only shall I be judged by God Himself, but you as well.
See also, in the Doubting Thomas episode, Thomas cries out and calls Jesus “my Lord and my God.”
Prophecies in Isaiah call Jesus “God” also.
No denyin’ it.
I'm firmly convinced we never knew the man and his faith.
Humility is a valuable concept, but, if we are all on different paths leading to one God, how can there be such a thing as “idolatry?” The Bible has tons of condemnations of various types of idolatry. Idol worshippers are not portrayed as fellow travelers on their way to heaven.
God may well accept the sincere and well-intentioned prayers of people of most all religions. But your statement seems to imply that one's religion doesn't matter, as long as God listens to your prayers. I can't accept that. It is at odds with Christian doctrine, which I do accept.
I’m not arguing with you at all. In fact, I tend to side with you. I know what my beliefs are and while I know they are what’s right for me, I know that many others will have different views. Who am I to judge? I am a sinner and flawed.
Sounds like univeralism to me- all paths lead to heaven. He’s lost in the weeds trying to be all things to all people. Sad.
Bush is so very desperate for a legacy that he’ll do anything to appease the Muslims....including selling out Israel and kow-towing to their “god”.
Either Adam had free choice, or he did not.
If he had free choice, then he could have chosen to reject the temptation, as Christ did, and then would have gone on to perfectly fulfill whatever God’s will for him might have been. If he was just unable to resist the temptation, then obviously God created an imperfect man.
Using your perspective, Jesus cheated. He wasn’t “just a man,” as Adam was, imperfect (by your definition) and subject to temptation and the weaknesses of the flesh. He was also God, and perfect, and He knew in advance what the results of his choice would be. Given those differences, was his choosing differently from Adam any great shock? The Creator of the Universe resisting the Devil? Sounds like a remarkably uneven match.
It may be a mix of both.
I've heard that many times. But if you ask them to skip the multi-gods and just come in to a Christian church and pray straight away to the "One God", they tend to refuse.
Yikes!
univeralism = universalism
I’ve got an even better answer for those who say the Jews reject the Godhead Trinity:
NO, THEY DON’T They accept it just as much as Christians do,
Infact (if you read Isaiah: it almost sounds like a Gospel), refering to the Savior who will come to give His life, and be the pefect Lamb sacrifice for mankind (and be mistreated as Jesus was).
The Jews believe in the Trinity, Both Father (obvious), Spirit (refered to in the Old Testament), and a Future (Savior/Sacrfice/Man of Sorrow): The difference: The Jews are still looking for the “future savior”-3rd part of the Godhead to come to earth as Man, which is why, I am convinced that God will spare and save Judea/Israel in the events of Revelations).
He definately did fulfill God's plan.
Three members of the Holy Trinity.
It’s what many Christians believe.
Yes, the three are One, in the same way that the material universe has three aspects -- length, breadth, and height. Without one of the aspects, matter would not be tangible.
The totality (volume) of the universe can be known by the simple equation calculating the length, times breadth, times height.
The totality of God can be discerned by using the same equation as a metaphor -- Father times Son times Holy Spirit. The three are one, as Jesus said when he stated, 'I and my Father are one.' Each aspect representing the whole.
I suppose there are arguments over what the name of the Son of God (the Christ) is, which there shouldn't be. Jesus, in English, is plain enough for me. Other languages may have different pronunciations. But the principle holds. The equation doesn't change. The Son is Christ Jesus, who manifests the Father continually in the same way that the present manifests the future continually, for the future is the reservoir of time.
It seems like a mystery, but given enough thought, it should become more clear.
There’s a good “end times” documentary starting on history channel right now. It’s pretty good I’ve seen it before. By pretty good I mean entertaining.
Interesting that you say that. I have two friends, one Hindi and one Muslim. They both believe in the one God idea, and the Muslim so much so that she said Christians, Jews and Muslims are all worshipers of the same God. Pretty brave on her part, considering.
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