Posted on 10/07/2007 8:01:14 PM PDT by JSDude1
Mr. President?
Here's a hint:
Real Prophets climb mountains to be closer to God.
The don't slither into holes to hear the hissings of The Serpent.
We can be fairly certain to Whom she isn't praying. ~ Frwy
I wonder more what she's praying, 'please God, give this man an early demise'...
Then I don’t believe you are a Christian: three persons and one substance, you know, and all that.
Burn him!/s
You are correct!
Probably. But I still hold out hope that this is the spiritual equivalent of saying 'nice doggy, nice rabid doggy, good boy', while loading the 12 gauge...
You’re both wrong.
Perhaps you should read my additional posts before casting judgment.
Hope in one hand . . .
And you are boviously either a Catholic or one well versed in Milton’s Paradise Lost.
The Protestants find no mention of the beginings of Satan within their scripture.
And regardless, Satan (note- not Lucifer, though he has many names) is, in simplest context, anything which takes your eyes from God. Even a distraction is considered “sin” for we are living without God at that time. And that being said, what is the very thing Satan needs to take hold of you? For you to live simply a mortal life where you give into such small things.
Slippery slope if you will.
(Please note, this is not in any way reflecting how I feel about how God thinks of us and in any way condemning anybody for simple things like smoking pot or looking at porn. This is simply the way the Church *little “c”* has taught me in my years.)
Maybe it isn’t God’s work that needs to be done...?
God simply watches us and delights in us growing in the same way we delight in the growth of our own children.
The day we learn -all by ourselves- to “don’t touch the stove” is the day He can proudly give us a bike to bash our heads open with. But He will still be there to give us a band-aid and set us back on our bike... when we are again ready.
WE’RE the one’s who learn to ride the bike, He simply gets to watch and enjoy our journey.
Most humans out of fellowship with God aren’t seeking Satan, but are instead merely seeking something other than God as a counterfeit to what He has already provided.
And in that counterfit, is Satan. Who best earns from lack of God? Satan of course!
Any soul not to God is to Satan, thus my stand and my statements.
It is also the conclussion of your own observation, despite your deliberations.
I’m so sorry to hear this report....
Pick up a copy of “The Invisible War” by Dr Donald Barnhouse, (it might now be out of print). He discusses the topics of good and evil from a Protestant perspective.
L. S. Chafer also provides quite a bit in his Systematic Theology.
BTW, Scripture is Scripture. The Word of God provides quite a bit of insight to the Adversary. A distraction might be sin if we allow it to shift our faith through Christ in our stream of consciousness, but distraction does not force sin. Take for example our Lord’s ordeal on his way to the Cross. Almost every type of distraction was levied against our Lord, but He remained faithful to the Father throughout. Likewise today, through faith in Christ, there is no temptation too great than that which may be resisted.
I agree with you that anytime we think independently of Him, we are missing the mark (sin), knowingly or unknowingly.
But I discern the issue of sin and the issues of good and evil. Satan is a very real name for a very real person with volition associated with the fallen angel Lucifer, also known as the Devil. My point being, just because somebody sins, doesn’t mean the devil made them sin. Most sins are caused by ourselves operating independently of all other persons in all creation, exercising our very own volition, but not in obedience to His Will.
Christ settled the issue of sin, once and for all eternity. on the Cross. Issues of good and evil must be resolved in time.
So you think the Torah and the Koran carry the same weight? How on earth is such a thing possible?
The 4500 yr old Torah is the word of God and is the very anchor of God to the earth. The Koran is slapped together 1600 yrs ago by some guy who appropriates an Arab pagan god of many pagan gods and calls him ‘the one true god’ in whose name all adherents must destroy or subjugate all infidels.
The New testament God doesn NOT contradict the Old Testament God. The pagan god Allah not only contradicts the old testament but he contradicts HIMSELF.
I suppose there are innocent supplicants who pray, and how God regards them I’ve no clue but followers of the angry, violent, destroying god of Islam aren’t innocent. They have the nature of their god before their very faces every time they open that book.
Amen
He’s our president, not our pope or pastor for crying out loud. It’s disappointing to me, because it doesn’t jive with what we believe as Christians, but he has other fish to fry on our behalf. I look to president Bush as our countries leader, not as our king on a crusade.
Remember, whether we like it or not, muslims in this country for the most part anyway, are our fellow countrymen, and whether we like it or not, OUR FAITH as commanded to us from the Lord Jesus, God incarnate, Himself says to “love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you”, etc. As long as life is there, there is hope for those in darkness who don’t know the loving power of Christ, we can only pray, pray, pray unceaseingly for our muslim brothers.
There, I said it, I can’t stand them really, but Jesus has commanded me to love them anyway
My point is that Satan is merely a powerful creature, not a parallel god coequal with God. We all have natural enmity to him, and it is an easy mistake to associate anything other than God as belonging to the Adversary, but that isn’t the case.
This doesn’t mean he doesn’t possess many, nor that he isn’t involved in much sin, but one of his goals to be make himself like the most high. The Adversary loves to be thought of in such high regard.
Now where the dichotomy is better revealed is in regards to the issues of good and evil.
Unlike sin which was settled on the Cross by our Lord and Savior, and by the Father judging all sin, past present and future, the issues of good and evil have not been so resolved.
Our human good today is parlayed into evil by the Adversary. Only Divine good has eternal merit. In a moment’s notice, our sin may be forgiven by 1st John 1:9. That is not the case with good and evil. They are resolved in time.
When we believe in God through faith in Christ, we are today sealed by the Holy Spirit along with a regeneration of our human spirit in salvation. There still remains post-salvation sin. It will separate our thinking from Him, but not our seal. Our soul is not relinguished to the Adversary when we sin, but we no longer abide by His Will when we turn away from Him.
BTW, regarding sin,...Satan hates sin. His counterfeit plan to God’s is filled with worldly order. One thing Satan can’t control is the ability of man to sin, regardless of what Satan commands.
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