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To: Cvengr

And you are boviously either a Catholic or one well versed in Milton’s Paradise Lost.

The Protestants find no mention of the beginings of Satan within their scripture.

And regardless, Satan (note- not Lucifer, though he has many names) is, in simplest context, anything which takes your eyes from God. Even a distraction is considered “sin” for we are living without God at that time. And that being said, what is the very thing Satan needs to take hold of you? For you to live simply a mortal life where you give into such small things.

Slippery slope if you will.

(Please note, this is not in any way reflecting how I feel about how God thinks of us and in any way condemning anybody for simple things like smoking pot or looking at porn. This is simply the way the Church *little “c”* has taught me in my years.)


210 posted on 10/08/2007 9:07:30 AM PDT by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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To: MacDorcha

Pick up a copy of “The Invisible War” by Dr Donald Barnhouse, (it might now be out of print). He discusses the topics of good and evil from a Protestant perspective.

L. S. Chafer also provides quite a bit in his Systematic Theology.

BTW, Scripture is Scripture. The Word of God provides quite a bit of insight to the Adversary. A distraction might be sin if we allow it to shift our faith through Christ in our stream of consciousness, but distraction does not force sin. Take for example our Lord’s ordeal on his way to the Cross. Almost every type of distraction was levied against our Lord, but He remained faithful to the Father throughout. Likewise today, through faith in Christ, there is no temptation too great than that which may be resisted.

I agree with you that anytime we think independently of Him, we are missing the mark (sin), knowingly or unknowingly.

But I discern the issue of sin and the issues of good and evil. Satan is a very real name for a very real person with volition associated with the fallen angel Lucifer, also known as the Devil. My point being, just because somebody sins, doesn’t mean the devil made them sin. Most sins are caused by ourselves operating independently of all other persons in all creation, exercising our very own volition, but not in obedience to His Will.

Christ settled the issue of sin, once and for all eternity. on the Cross. Issues of good and evil must be resolved in time.


215 posted on 10/08/2007 9:31:22 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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