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UK: Vicars told not to wear dog collars in public as it makes them a target for muggers
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | October 7, 2007 | CHRIS BROOKE

Posted on 10/07/2007 11:28:49 AM PDT by Stoat

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So, rather than addressing the crime problem properly, people are being advised to cower in fear.

How utterly pathetic.

Since ladies are the most common rape victims, should they now be advised to cut their hair short, wear masculine attire and avoid wearing jewelry or makeup in an effort ot appear as masculine as possible?

How about dealing with the crime problem effectively instead, so that all of society doesn't have to live in fear?

1 posted on 10/07/2007 11:29:00 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

I thought you might be interested......


2 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:37 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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This is the headline:

Vicars told not to wear dog collars in public as it makes them a target for muggers

This is the headline we'd all like to see:

Vicars told to carry large-caliber handguns to defend themselves against muggers

3 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:39 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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Five vicars have been murdered in the past decade, and a 2001 study found that 12 per cent of clergy had suffered some form of violence.

While I sympathize with the vicars, these are not exactly alarming statistics. I'll bet that nearly every profession could make the same claims. One murder every two years? Out of a population of how many? I would think that that is hardly even statistically significant. And the statement that roughly 1 out of 10 had suffered "some form of violence" is so broad as to be virtually meaningless.

There is a problem, to be sure, and this "solution" is an act of abject cowardice, nothing more. But I hardly think this is the problem the article would have us believe it is.

4 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:42 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Stoat

“DOG COLLARS?”


5 posted on 10/07/2007 11:34:03 AM PDT by Max in Utah (If your neighbors were trespassing, wouldn't you want a nice tall fence? With razor wire on top?)
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Jihad!, I want to stick my winky into the infidel’s cattle. They offend my brethren.
6 posted on 10/07/2007 11:34:51 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Do people in England really call them “dog collars”? I have never heard them referred to as such, the correct term being “clerical collars.” This seems disrespectful, and it certainly says a lot about the lack of civilization in not-so-Great Britain these days.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 11:35:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Sigh. I suppose declaring an open season on the human trash who prey upon decent people would be considered unenlightened.

God protect you Britain.

9 posted on 10/07/2007 11:36:08 AM PDT by VR-21
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Britain was such a civilized place not too long ago. I used to love going to Brighton for shopping. While in Britain last Christmas I was verbally assaulted by a bunch of 14 year old yobs walking in the Lanes. My FIL had said Brighton wasn’t a nice place anymore but I had to see for myself. It’s just sad.
10 posted on 10/07/2007 11:36:25 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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Warning: Vicars advised not to wear their dog collars in public because they are more likely to be attacked

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11 posted on 10/07/2007 11:37:31 AM PDT by donna (Equal justice for U.S. citizens!)
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The sad part is that the Church of England no longer stands for much in the way of morality. Perhaps that is why the hoodlums have such contempt for them?


12 posted on 10/07/2007 11:38:29 AM PDT by TWohlford
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priests are often targeted more than other professions as they are considered unlikely to fight back.

I think I have a solution. Start packing heat!

(Oh yeah I forgot. This is the UK, where the criminals have the monopoly on violence.)

13 posted on 10/07/2007 11:44:42 AM PDT by Argus
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England has become what many want the US to become, a minimum security work camp that resembles a society. No sharp or dangerous things, just go to work and pay your taxes, while Parliament is in the back pocket of the London power brokers. The sun really has set on the Empire.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 11:45:55 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jdm

Oh, I do hope so! ;)
susie


15 posted on 10/07/2007 11:47:25 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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should they now be advised to cut their hair short, wear masculine attire and avoid wearing jewelry or makeup in an effort ot appear as masculine as possible?

No, if they just wear burkahs, they should be ok.

16 posted on 10/07/2007 11:48:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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So,... who hates Dogs and reviles them? Who would mug a man of God of the Chistian Faith? Who would change the lexicon from CLerical Collar to Dog Collars to demaen these men of Faith? Think about it. Just asking.


17 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:03 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Now, that’s just sad.

The U.S. has a lot of problems, but at least we haven’t sunk to this level.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:09 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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“DOG COLLARS?”

Webster's II (1934) gives dog collar in that sense as Brit slang. Someone with an OED could say how far back it goes, and whether or not it’s usually derogatory.

‘Maurice, why did you bring that ghastly little dog-collared drip over here like that?’

— Kingsley Amis, The Green Man, 1969.


19 posted on 10/07/2007 11:58:09 AM PDT by dighton
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“Dog Collars,yobs,off his trolley.” Are we speakin’ the same language?
I assume yobs are youts.


20 posted on 10/07/2007 12:01:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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