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UK: Vicars told not to wear dog collars in public as it makes them a target for muggers
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | October 7, 2007 | CHRIS BROOKE

Posted on 10/07/2007 11:28:49 AM PDT by Stoat

Vicars told not to wear dog collars in public as it makes them a target for muggers

By CHRIS BROOKE - More by this author » Last updated at 15:25pm on 7th October 2007

 

Warning: Vicars advised not to wear their dog collars in public because they are more likely to be attacked

 

Vicars are being advised to take off their dog collars when they go out while off duty to reduce the risk of being attacked by yobs.

New advice states that even the Archbishop of Canterbury should remove his dog collar outside church.

Priests should also seek the company of "guardian angels" to reduce the risk of being assaulted and protect vicarages by installing a number of security devices.

A new report by National Churchwatch, an independent organisation which provides clergy with personal safety advice, warns priests are often targeted more than other professions as they are considered unlikely to fight back.

Falling congregations and an education system which focuses on understanding all faiths has made the Church of England priest more at risk.

The report states: "A knock on effect of this is that attacking a member of the clergy is seen by most criminals as no different to attacking a shopkeeper, robbing an old lady or any other member of society, if their own motivation demands this action."

Five vicars have been murdered in the past decade, and a 2001 study found that 12 per cent of clergy had suffered some form of violence.

Around half of all assaults on clergy occur away from the vicarage and the report highlighted the importance of the "clerical collar" in making them more vulnerable.

"The fact that clergy are clearly identifiable away from their place of work/home raises the risk of them meeting a motivated offender who uses violence as a method of achieving their aims," the report states.

Author Nick Tolson said the warning about not wearing dog collars at all time was relevant to all clergy, including the Archbishop of Canterbury.

He said: "When they are on their own, and when they are off duty, for example when they are also doing their shopping in Tesco on their own, there is no need for them to wear their dog collars."

Mr Tolson said: "For some clergy this is real radical stuff. The argument against it is it's their witness in the community - their way of saying, 'hello, I'm the vicar.'

"That's fine when you're being the vicar. If you're visiting someone or going to an old people's home, wear your dog collar. That means you're with people. It's when you're on your own, that's the key thing.

"There are times when you can be in church on your own and you look out and see some guy who's obviously off his trolley. You may want to slip off the dog collar before you see him."

The report also recommends clergy make "lifestyle changes" to reduce the times when they are alone. The mere presence in the church or at home of a family member, parishioner or churchworker "reduces the chance of violence to a very low statistical probability."

Vicars should not invite people they don't know to their homes and they are advised to implement basic security measures.

These include installation of front door "spy hole" or CCTV to see who is at the door, a door design that stops the person outside from seeing in, an intercom to communicate with a visitor and there should be no letter boxes on entry doors.

The report concludes that clergy should follow the basic personal safety rules to protect themselves and to set an example to other members of the community.

The most recent murder of a vicar happened in March this year.

Father Paul Bennett, 59, was stabbed in the grounds of his church in Trecynon, near Aberdare, South Wales. Geraint Evans, 24, a local resident, is due to stand trial for his murder.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; collar; crime; criminals; dogcollar; dogcollars; england; greatbritain; islam; muggers; muslims; muslimviolence; religion; rop; uk; unitedkingdom; vicars; yobs
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So, rather than addressing the crime problem properly, people are being advised to cower in fear.

How utterly pathetic.

Since ladies are the most common rape victims, should they now be advised to cut their hair short, wear masculine attire and avoid wearing jewelry or makeup in an effort ot appear as masculine as possible?

How about dealing with the crime problem effectively instead, so that all of society doesn't have to live in fear?

1 posted on 10/07/2007 11:29:00 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

I thought you might be interested......


2 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:37 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
This is the headline:

Vicars told not to wear dog collars in public as it makes them a target for muggers

This is the headline we'd all like to see:

Vicars told to carry large-caliber handguns to defend themselves against muggers

3 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:39 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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Five vicars have been murdered in the past decade, and a 2001 study found that 12 per cent of clergy had suffered some form of violence.

While I sympathize with the vicars, these are not exactly alarming statistics. I'll bet that nearly every profession could make the same claims. One murder every two years? Out of a population of how many? I would think that that is hardly even statistically significant. And the statement that roughly 1 out of 10 had suffered "some form of violence" is so broad as to be virtually meaningless.

There is a problem, to be sure, and this "solution" is an act of abject cowardice, nothing more. But I hardly think this is the problem the article would have us believe it is.

4 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:42 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Stoat

“DOG COLLARS?”


5 posted on 10/07/2007 11:34:03 AM PDT by Max in Utah (If your neighbors were trespassing, wouldn't you want a nice tall fence? With razor wire on top?)
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To: Stoat
Jihad!, I want to stick my winky into the infidel’s cattle. They offend my brethren.
6 posted on 10/07/2007 11:34:51 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Stoat

Do people in England really call them “dog collars”? I have never heard them referred to as such, the correct term being “clerical collars.” This seems disrespectful, and it certainly says a lot about the lack of civilization in not-so-Great Britain these days.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 11:35:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Sigh. I suppose declaring an open season on the human trash who prey upon decent people would be considered unenlightened.

God protect you Britain.

9 posted on 10/07/2007 11:36:08 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: Stoat
Britain was such a civilized place not too long ago. I used to love going to Brighton for shopping. While in Britain last Christmas I was verbally assaulted by a bunch of 14 year old yobs walking in the Lanes. My FIL had said Brighton wasn’t a nice place anymore but I had to see for myself. It’s just sad.
10 posted on 10/07/2007 11:36:25 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: Stoat
Warning: Vicars advised not to wear their dog collars in public because they are more likely to be attacked

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11 posted on 10/07/2007 11:37:31 AM PDT by donna (Equal justice for U.S. citizens!)
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To: Stoat

The sad part is that the Church of England no longer stands for much in the way of morality. Perhaps that is why the hoodlums have such contempt for them?


12 posted on 10/07/2007 11:38:29 AM PDT by TWohlford
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priests are often targeted more than other professions as they are considered unlikely to fight back.

I think I have a solution. Start packing heat!

(Oh yeah I forgot. This is the UK, where the criminals have the monopoly on violence.)

13 posted on 10/07/2007 11:44:42 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Stoat

England has become what many want the US to become, a minimum security work camp that resembles a society. No sharp or dangerous things, just go to work and pay your taxes, while Parliament is in the back pocket of the London power brokers. The sun really has set on the Empire.


14 posted on 10/07/2007 11:45:55 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jdm

Oh, I do hope so! ;)
susie


15 posted on 10/07/2007 11:47:25 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Stoat
should they now be advised to cut their hair short, wear masculine attire and avoid wearing jewelry or makeup in an effort ot appear as masculine as possible?

No, if they just wear burkahs, they should be ok.

16 posted on 10/07/2007 11:48:00 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Stoat

So,... who hates Dogs and reviles them? Who would mug a man of God of the Chistian Faith? Who would change the lexicon from CLerical Collar to Dog Collars to demaen these men of Faith? Think about it. Just asking.


17 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:03 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: wagglebee; Atlantic Bridge

Now, that’s just sad.

The U.S. has a lot of problems, but at least we haven’t sunk to this level.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 11:57:09 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Max in Utah; AnAmericanMother; aculeus; Billthedrill; Happygal; Charles Henrickson
“DOG COLLARS?”

Webster's II (1934) gives dog collar in that sense as Brit slang. Someone with an OED could say how far back it goes, and whether or not it’s usually derogatory.

‘Maurice, why did you bring that ghastly little dog-collared drip over here like that?’

— Kingsley Amis, The Green Man, 1969.


19 posted on 10/07/2007 11:58:09 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Stoat

“Dog Collars,yobs,off his trolley.” Are we speakin’ the same language?
I assume yobs are youts.


20 posted on 10/07/2007 12:01:59 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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