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Feds move to ease guest-worker rules
Los Angeles Times ^ | Oct. 07, 2007 | NICOLE GAOUETTE

Posted on 10/07/2007 9:43:52 AM PDT by Dubya

WASHINGTON -- With a nationwide farmworker shortage threatening to leave unharvested fruits and vegetables rotting in fields, the Bush administration has begun quietly rewriting federal regulations to eliminate barriers that restrict how foreign laborers can be brought into the country legally.

The urgent effort, under way at the U.S. departments of Homeland Security, State and Labor, is meant to help farm owners caught in a vice between an impossibly complex process to hire legal guest-workers and stepped-up enforcement that has reduced the number of undocumented planters and pickers crossing the border.

"It is important for the farm sector to have access to labor to stay competitive," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel. "As the southern border has tightened, some producers have a more difficult time finding a work force, and that is a factor of what is going on today."

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; farmworkers; guestworkers; h2avisas; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: Dubya
the Bush administration has begun quietly rewriting federal regulations to eliminate barriers that restrict how foreign laborers can legally be brought into the country.

Someone help me out here. I thought this stuff was governed by law. Can the admin just change laws on the fly like this?

FWIW, I'd be willing, and I bet you would too, to pay a lot more for lettuce, etc. if we could keep out the illegal aliens.

This criminal conduct has been going on for a long time. To the point where it's become very expected in the agricultural community. The time to stop this nonsense and pay the piper is now, IMHO. Allowing more sleazebag illegals into the country is just a temporary patch on a serious problem.

And, let's suppose 100,000 more immigrants were let in on a guest worker program. How is this managed? What guarantee do we have that when the program is over they will go home?

21 posted on 10/07/2007 10:33:15 AM PDT by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery!)
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To: Dubya

Hey Bush, there are a bunch of people sitting around collecting welfare because they can’t find work. Send them a bus ticket instead of trying to import cheap labor that your “farmer” pals pay next to nothing, which is a crime against humanity itself.

Quit making the rest of us pay for the increases in crime, rape, murder, drug dealing etc. that comes along with these underpaid SLAVES you keep tryingf to import.

If farmers can’t pay a decent wage to harvest their crops, then let it rot on the ground. It means they planted too much, more than they can pick themselves, which from the looks of their fat arses, isn’t very much.


22 posted on 10/07/2007 10:36:52 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Dubya

Hey Bush, there are a bunch of people sitting around collecting welfare because they can’t find work. Send them a bus ticket instead of trying to import cheap labor that your “farmer” pals pay next to nothing, which is a crime against humanity itself.

Quit making the rest of us pay for the increases in crime, rape, murder, drug dealing etc. that comes along with these underpaid SLAVES you keep tryingf to import.

If farmers can’t pay a decent wage to harvest their crops, then let it rot on the ground. It means they planted too much, more than they can pick themselves, which from the looks of their fat arses, isn’t very much.


23 posted on 10/07/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: JoanneSD

As usual, this is all a lie.

The Southeast which raises a lot of our fruits and vegetables has had one of the longest running droughts this season. There is nothing to pick or harvest. Fruit and vegetables are withering in the fields.

Texas has had an unusual amount of rain and flooding this year. Many fields did not make their crops.

So with produce prices high this year, no one will dump their crop.

Someone needs to produce a picture with address so we can verify the need for additional aliens.


24 posted on 10/07/2007 10:38:05 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

We talked about this. We were concerned this administration would do an end run and get it’s amnesty.

U.S. raises refugee admissions ceilings
Washington Times ^ | Oct. 2, 2007 | Deb Riechmann

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1907806/posts


25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:39:49 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Dubya

There is a shortage of workers at the low wage they pay. They should try to rectify the problem by increasing the wage.


26 posted on 10/07/2007 10:40:24 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Clintonfatigued
Bush is not serious about securing the borders. I’ll be glad when he’s gone.

Ditto

27 posted on 10/07/2007 10:43:13 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: blasater1960
This is crap. I live in a heavily Ag area and we are swamped with Mexicans.

Our sheriff has busted green card holders (not fakes!) growing dope in our national forests for Mexican drug cartels. They'll get the green card, they won't work 'agriculture' and they will NEVER leave.

28 posted on 10/07/2007 10:43:51 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
With a nationwide farmworker shortage threatening to leave unharvested fruits and vegetables rotting in fields, the Bush administration has begun quietly rewriting federal regulations to eliminate barriers that restrict how foreign laborers can be brought into the country legally.

The very first sentence of this essay is a lie. The weather has devastated crops in Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Texas. Even CNN has shown pictures of crops withering in fields due to lack of water in some places. The Southeast has suffered one of the longest droughts ever. Texas has had record rains causing flooding and the ruination of crops.

Show me the pictures of vegetables and fruits rotting on the ground. Give us the address and let us verify that they are rotting on the ground. Bush is as bad as Clinston at lying. With the produce prices so high, not one farmer will let his crop rot in the field.

The very idea that a president can rewrite the law is unforgivable.

29 posted on 10/07/2007 10:56:27 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Dubya

If US companies truly NEED temporary workers to do some type of seasonal or temporary project, I’m all for a rigid no-nonsense Guest Worker program.

I’d even accept a good size boost in the allowable Guest workers from where its at now.

However, there must be NO connecting a guest worker with citizenship, amnesty, permanent green cards, or anything else that the open borders crowd wants.

Pay them fairly. Let them do the job and help a US company. Fine.

But for heaven’s sake, STOP this FLOOD of illegal immigration which is quickly changing American culture and society into a quasi Third World status.


30 posted on 10/07/2007 10:59:53 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Dubya
If he can’t get his illegal amigos in one way, he’ll try another and another. He’s relentless on this. It’s an obsession that probably stems from a sick attachment to his hispanic nanny that he “loved “so much.
31 posted on 10/07/2007 11:05:24 AM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: Dubya
the Bush administration has begun quietly rewriting federal regulations

Is George Bush so thick that he cannot understand the difference between a legitimate and TEMPORARY guest worker program for agriculture (which few have complained about in the last 30 years), and the monumentally flawed disaster called the Z Visa?

That he finds it necessary to do this "quietly" indicates he is either completely out of touch with America ("How does this ATM card work?"), or that he's again up to no good. Presume the latter.

32 posted on 10/07/2007 11:33:42 AM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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To: DakotaRed
Why do we even need guest workers when we are paying unemployment to citizens and high school kids sit around all summer with little to do?

Because these are not "the jobs that Americans don't want", but "the wages Americans won't work for".

33 posted on 10/07/2007 11:35:05 AM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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To: Wiggins
Unfortunately what's coming is not any better.

Yep. Look at the sheep the "values voters" and "social conservatives" have left us with as candidates. Anyone who's stood consistently at those podiums is by definition unable to contend against Hitlery.

That leaves Thompson.

Too bad we dumped on Newt, he's the only guy who might have prevailed against the Clinton attack machine that is sharpening it's swords right now.

34 posted on 10/07/2007 11:40:16 AM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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To: Clintonfatigued; All

Bush is serious about flooding the country with illegals
period!!


35 posted on 10/07/2007 12:15:07 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Vigilanteman

“The problem is that too many of the 30 million or so are too busy collecting welfare, engaging in MS-13 activities and organizing or participating in demonstrations to demand their rights to colonize. Plus there are those working construction, landscaping and doing things which pay so much better than harvesting crops.”

BINGO!


36 posted on 10/07/2007 12:17:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Dubya
With a nationwide farmworker shortage threatening to leave unharvested fruits and vegetables rotting in fields,...

LMAO

Note to Bush administration:

The people are on to you.

37 posted on 10/07/2007 1:05:28 PM PDT by Penner
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To: AuntB
"Our sheriff has busted green card holders (not fakes!) growing dope in our national forests for Mexican drug cartels. They'll get the green card, they won't work 'agriculture' and they will NEVER leave."

WOW You must live in the same area as I do. We have had 40 and 50 million dollar pot growing busts by Mexican gangs. Lot of shaved heads driving Escalades with full "bling". And you are so correct, they dont leave. The ones who do work agriculture, end up doing other things and thus the will be a never ending "need" for cheap labor.

38 posted on 10/07/2007 2:48:43 PM PDT by blasater1960
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To: blasater1960
WOW You must live in the same area as I do. We have had 40 and 50 million dollar pot growing busts by Mexican gangs. Lot of shaved heads driving Escalades with full "bling". And you are so correct, they dont leave. The ones who do work agriculture, end up doing other things and thus the will be a never ending "need" for cheap labor.

Oh, Sweetie, just pick an area. They're everywhere there is a forest or secluded park areas. Just found another story about it today.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/

Mexican marijuana growers deported

Three Mexican men arrested during a raid on a large outdoor marijuana farm near the Yuba River in July were deported this week after a Nevada County judge sentenced them to three years of probation. [snip---be sure to see the photos of these grows at link]

39 posted on 10/07/2007 2:53:25 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Will88

And farmers in areas such as California’s San Joaquin Valley, which is experiencing a 20 percent labor shortfall

I live in the San Joaquin Valley and believe me, we have no shortage of illegals. We are overrun by them. They may not be working in the fields but they are everywhere else, construction, fast food, etc. I called the manager at a McDonalds to the drive thru the other day and told her I wouldn’t be back because the guy working the window couldn’t speak freaking English. It seems I have to do that everywhere I go anymore.


40 posted on 10/07/2007 4:03:36 PM PDT by sheana
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