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The complex ambush in Haditha: November 19, 2005
(Major thanks to Freeper (and map wizard) RS
who found all the coordinates!)

All this information was available to Congressman John Murtha before his cold-blooded killer slander on May 17, 2006.

This information was also leaked to the media more than a year ago. But they suppressed it in favor of a lie about a massacre.

For more, see...


1 posted on 10/07/2007 8:08:48 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover
Staged Atrocities is an old guerrilla warfare tactic. Simply sickening that the US Military JAG’s are so hide bound in their fashionable PC thinking that they cannot be bothered to learn even the simplest things about how Counter Insurgency differs from Total War.
2 posted on 10/07/2007 8:19:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: All
Lest we forget...

Well, with the closing of the SSgt Frank Wuterich Article hearing, the investigation into the enlisted Marines is now officially over.

Read the investigating officer's reports for yourself (pdf formats): SSgt Frank Wuterich, LCpl Stephen Tatum, and LCpl Justin Sharratt.

They are not killers. Defend our Marines.

3 posted on 10/07/2007 8:20:20 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Thank you again for your diligence!

inquiry prepared by US Army Maj. Gen. Eldon A. Bargewell is an obscure Marine Corps intelligence summary (see pdf) that says the deadly encounter was an intentional propaganda ploy planned and paid for by Al Qaeda foreign fighters.

Well known by many for over a year!

Our media, the enemy within

Yep ..... the ENEMEDIA

4 posted on 10/07/2007 8:30:07 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RedRover

This is stunning!! Our military is being framed by AQ and nobody is stopping it?? Wonder if the DNC was in on the AQ charade??

Pray for W and Our Marines


7 posted on 10/07/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: RedRover
Another excellent article by Nat Helms. He uses information that was available to the NCIS agents investigating the case and JAG prosecutors pursuing the case against these Marines to show al Qaeda was deeply involved in the event but ignored that evidence. The NCIS and JAG prosecutors should be held accountable.

Veteran military defense attorney Gary Meyers said he never understood why the Naval Criminal Investigative Service special agents leading the Haditha criminal investigation didn’t "examine the linkage" between Al Qaeda, the local insurgency and the events at Haditha.

SECNAV Winter should require a thorough investigation of the NCIS. If he doesn't require that, he should be fired from his position and replaced by someone who will investigate the total ineptness of the NCIS and this investigation of the Haditha Marines.

12 posted on 10/07/2007 9:15:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; abigailsmybaby; Badeye; bmwcyle; brityank; desherwood7; FairOpinion; Fedora; ...
Murtha Watch Ping!

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To be added to the Murtha Watch ping list please notify myself or RedRover.

13 posted on 10/07/2007 9:22:06 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Democrats Chastise Limbaugh for Insulting Troops

Oct. 6, 2007

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has introduced a “Bill of Attainder” against conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh for “usurping the prerogatives of congress.” The flap started when Limbaugh characterized self-proclaimed war hero and war critic, Jesse Macbeth, a “phony soldier.”

“It is not for Mr. Limbaugh to say who is or isn’t a soldier,” Reid said. “Nor should he be casting aspersions on brave men like Jesse Macbeth for their outspoken opposition to the atrocities committed by our troops. Congress is the judge of these matters.”

Reid asserted that “the testimony of soldiers like Macbeth has been corroborated by many others.” “Senator Kerry (D-Mass.) has informed me that our troops have been terrorizing women and children in the dead of night,” Reid went on. “Congressman Murtha (D-Pa.) pointed out that our Marines have been killing civilians in cold-blood. I have heard similar stories from Senator Durbin (D-Ill.) and Senator Obama (D-Ill.).”

As it turns out, Macbeth who claimed to have been an Army Ranger was in the Army only 44 days and never served in Iraq or Afghanistan. The lack of actual participation in the war did not stunt Macbeth’s imagination. He described how he and other U.S. Army Rangers slaughtered Muslims as they prayed in a Baghdad mosque.

Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) cautioned that we “not rush to dismiss Macbeth’s account of atrocities just because he embellished his war record.” Harkin said boasting about one’s military service is “a harmless vice” akin to “fishermen’s tales of the one that got away.”

Harkin once claimed to have flown combat missions in Vietnam, only to later be forced to admit that he only flew into Vietnam on a few occasions to “sample the ‘killer weed’ and get some action with ‘hot Asian babes.’”

Reid’s bill calls for Limbaugh to be permanently banished from the airwaves and to perform two million hours of community service helping non-English speakers register to vote.

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


15 posted on 10/07/2007 9:26:07 AM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Mo1; StarCMC; SandRat; holdonnow; txradioguy; armymarinemom; Bahbah; mware; Clint N. Suhks; sono; ..

ping


17 posted on 10/07/2007 9:32:32 AM PDT by AliVeritas
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; xzins; Girlene; freema; darrylsharratt; Shelayne; Lancey Howard; lilycicero; ...
Red, was this the presentation that was created for McGirk, that he failed to appear for? As someone remarked, he went to where he could get the story he wanted to tell, nothing close to the truth.

If so, this is damning evidence that will only help SSgt. Wunterich's case against Murtha; and I would hope that the rest of the prosecuted Marines likewise sue Murtha, McGirk, and TIME.

19 posted on 10/07/2007 9:40:13 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/investigating_officers_report.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/was_haditha_a_deliberate_propa.html


21 posted on 10/07/2007 9:50:40 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: sauropod

read


23 posted on 10/07/2007 9:56:10 AM PDT by sauropod ("Nobody has time for your priceless prose. Get to the point." - Jim Michaels RIP 2007)
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To: RedRover

You’ve got the “Palm grove” as being all the way down the river to the safe house. The “Palm grove” was off the detail to the north, near where the captions for it are in the unviewable PDF.

I do not believe the spots you have marked “3” are anywhere near the locaton of the events in what the reports call the “Palm Grove”.

Likewise, I don’t believe the “Second IED discovered” and “EOD team attacked by small arms fire to be anywhere near location “2”

Since the video is supposed to be time-coded perhaps you could provide the actual time of each of the captures that were posted relating to the “Palm grove” incidents and the drive south.


25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:02:59 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RedRover

Never faithful Murtha bump!


35 posted on 10/07/2007 10:32:50 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: RedRover

From Powerline:The NYT could find only one person critical of brave Officer Ware’s report but ehy failed to disclose something about him (from Powerline):
“Actually, the Times cites just one expert who voices what is evidently the paper’s own disappointment at the collapse of the case against the Marines: Eugene R. Fidell, who is identified as “an expert in military law in Washington.” Mr. Fidell has the article’s money quote:

“It does surprise me to see that the killing of seven women and children by grenades and rifles, for the purposes of clearing structures, is being treated the way this investigating officer has treated it.”
Where did the Times go to find an expert who would articulate the house view of the Haditha killings? Well, to be fair, I think Mr. Fidell is indeed an expert on military law. He is also, however, married to Linda Greenhouse, the hyper-liberal reporter who covers the Supreme Court for the Times—a fact that the paper did not consider it necessary to mention. So the Times didn’t have to look far for an expert whose opinion would give the right conclusion to an article on how guilty Marines beat the rap.”


37 posted on 10/07/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: RedRover; Cannoneer No. 4

Ping - the Media is our enemy within.


44 posted on 10/07/2007 1:48:55 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: pissant; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; Jeff Head; RedRover

This article is an absolutely mind-boggling revelation. It must be read.


51 posted on 10/07/2007 4:19:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover

Thanks for the ping. A very interesting article to say the least.


52 posted on 10/07/2007 5:12:21 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: RedRover

Ping! For the sheer joy of it!


54 posted on 10/07/2007 6:49:08 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our soldiers - my heroes)
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To: RedRover

Bump. For all you do.


63 posted on 10/08/2007 12:46:50 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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