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Al Qaeda in Haditha: The battle the media ignored
Defend Our Marines ^ | October 6, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 10/07/2007 8:08:46 AM PDT by RedRover

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To: RedRover

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/investigating_officers_report.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/was_haditha_a_deliberate_propa.html


21 posted on 10/07/2007 9:50:40 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Defiant; Just A Nobody; All
There's a collection of Murtha's own words on Haditha at the link. Spread it 'em around! Even Rush seemed hazy the other day about exactly what Murtha said. It's worse than most people remember.
22 posted on 10/07/2007 9:55:09 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: sauropod

read


23 posted on 10/07/2007 9:56:10 AM PDT by sauropod ("Nobody has time for your priceless prose. Get to the point." - Jim Michaels RIP 2007)
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To: bigheadfred
And if a hanging isn't possible, I'd settle for tar, feathers and a shove in the right direction...


24 posted on 10/07/2007 9:58:50 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

You’ve got the “Palm grove” as being all the way down the river to the safe house. The “Palm grove” was off the detail to the north, near where the captions for it are in the unviewable PDF.

I do not believe the spots you have marked “3” are anywhere near the locaton of the events in what the reports call the “Palm Grove”.

Likewise, I don’t believe the “Second IED discovered” and “EOD team attacked by small arms fire to be anywhere near location “2”

Since the video is supposed to be time-coded perhaps you could provide the actual time of each of the captures that were posted relating to the “Palm grove” incidents and the drive south.


25 posted on 10/07/2007 10:02:59 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: brityank
...was this the presentation that was created for McGirk?

I couldn't say that with confidence. But it's the 3/1 would have told McGirk if he had bothered to show up for their meeting.

And this information was given to Gen Huck and others who saw no reason to investigate--and have been censured by the SECNAVY.

26 posted on 10/07/2007 10:03:52 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: the Real fifi

Fabulous! Thanks for the links! Clarice Feldman is one smart cookie and a terrific writer.


27 posted on 10/07/2007 10:05:56 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

You forgot the Rail! It would add a little more aerodynamics and involve some group participation!


28 posted on 10/07/2007 10:10:49 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Thanks for the Anuerism RedRover)
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To: jazusamo
The NCIS and JAG prosecutors should be held accountable.

Held accountable by whom? By the same people who gave the NCIS and JAG prosecutors their marching orders to railroad some Marines for the Haditha hoax in order to do the politically correct thing "for the good of the Corps"? The same hack-politician officers and civilian leaders who have made an art form out of running scared from the liberal newsrooms?

Ain't gonna happen.

I long ago gave up on these scumbag ACLU prosecutors of JAG and their sleazy minions at Naval Service Investigative Criminals being "held accountable". They were given a mission, and (never thought I'd say this!) thank God these Marines were able to retain civilian lawyers.

29 posted on 10/07/2007 10:13:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

Thank you for posting this important bit of information!


30 posted on 10/07/2007 10:14:32 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

Thanks for the links, fifi. I’m very glad to see Clarice Feldman pick up on this, she’s always right on the mark with her analysis of an event and being a good lawyer knows of what she speaks.


31 posted on 10/07/2007 10:17:54 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Clarice Feldman is one smart cookie and a terrific writer.

Yes indeed.

32 posted on 10/07/2007 10:18:17 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RS

The caption for number 3 is misleading. I meant it to refer to River Road. I’ll correct. Thanks!

I may need your help with the video. I’ll post it in sections early next week.


33 posted on 10/07/2007 10:18:17 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Lancey Howard

We both know the SECNAV is the only one who can do it and Winter isn’t going to, he’s already said that. Sadly, he probably won’t be replaced either.


34 posted on 10/07/2007 10:24:01 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Never faithful Murtha bump!


35 posted on 10/07/2007 10:32:50 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: jazusamo
If our Marines are not actively suing Big John and the news media they should. And the folks in Pennsylvania should toss Big John out of office, NOW.
36 posted on 10/07/2007 10:38:22 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: RedRover

From Powerline:The NYT could find only one person critical of brave Officer Ware’s report but ehy failed to disclose something about him (from Powerline):
“Actually, the Times cites just one expert who voices what is evidently the paper’s own disappointment at the collapse of the case against the Marines: Eugene R. Fidell, who is identified as “an expert in military law in Washington.” Mr. Fidell has the article’s money quote:

“It does surprise me to see that the killing of seven women and children by grenades and rifles, for the purposes of clearing structures, is being treated the way this investigating officer has treated it.”
Where did the Times go to find an expert who would articulate the house view of the Haditha killings? Well, to be fair, I think Mr. Fidell is indeed an expert on military law. He is also, however, married to Linda Greenhouse, the hyper-liberal reporter who covers the Supreme Court for the Times—a fact that the paper did not consider it necessary to mention. So the Times didn’t have to look far for an expert whose opinion would give the right conclusion to an article on how guilty Marines beat the rap.”


37 posted on 10/07/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: RS

The picture above is corrected. Regarding numner two, we don’t have precise locations for every point in the timeline. The numbers are meant to go with specfic text—not the entire block.


38 posted on 10/07/2007 10:51:59 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Murtha’s a crab

I only say that because other words aren’t so nice.


39 posted on 10/07/2007 11:01:14 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: brityank
This appears to be the same summary that was prepared for McGirk--that he wasn't interested in hearing--he had his own set of facts--FROM THE TERRORISTS!

McGirk received his video "evidence" and contacts from two known Iraqi insurgent operatives already under observation by Marine Corps counter intelligence teams. One of the Iraqi witnesses McGirk relied on had just been released from almost six months captivity for insurgent activities and the other witness was considered a useful intelligence tool by Marines listening to him talk on his cell phone. McGirk never interviewed the Marines, who ironically had prepared a similar intelligence summary in anticipation of his canceled visit.

The summary – labeled "Bargewell Discovery" pages "001083" thru "001108" – was prepared by 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines using UAV images, statements obtained from the informants, and intelligence gleaned from captured insurgents to explain what happened. The information was detailed in 13 Draft Intelligence Information Reports (DIIR) from a Marine Humint Exploitation Team (HET) operating in the area.

I would hope that the rest of the prosecuted Marines likewise sue Murtha, McGirk, and TIME.

YES! EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE DESPICABLE LIARS!

40 posted on 10/07/2007 11:09:56 AM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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