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To: ShadowDancer
Here's some more: "Medellin was born in Mexico, but spent much of his childhood in the United States. He was 18 in June 1993, when he and other members of the Black and Whites gang in Houston encountered two teenage girls on a railroad trestle.

The girls were gang-raped and strangled. Their bodies were found four days later.

Medellin was arrested a few days later. He was told he had a right to remain silent and have a lawyer present, but the police did not tell him that he could request assistance from the Mexican consulate."

OK, we have an illegal alien, who's lived mostly in the States. On the one hand, we are suppored to treat him just like an American Citizen, indeed, according to the DREAM Act, even better by giving him in-state tuition. On the other hand, we are supposed to treat him like a foreign national, have him contact his consulate, so he can lawyer up and not give a written confession.

OK, Open Borders folks, which is it?

14 posted on 10/07/2007 4:43:10 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Huh? Where do you get that Medellin is an “illegal” out of the Fox News story. It only says he was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. as a child. That’s a very, very different thing.

Which may be why people have trouble with this. Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

Bush, as a crappy gov. of Texas, may have wanted to uphold TEXAS law, but as even the failed President of the United States, I hope he from time to time remembers his job is to uphold the Constitution of the United States, where treaties trump state laws... even Texas ones.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 4:55:06 AM PDT by rpgdfmx
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Excellent reply, despite the asinine post #18.

If treaties trumped the U.S. Constitution, then they would require a constitutional convention or ratification by 3/4th of all state legislatures.

Some nimrods forget that Amendment 10 is still part of the U.S. Constitution.

46 posted on 10/07/2007 7:55:14 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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