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To: Jabba the Nutt

Huh? Where do you get that Medellin is an “illegal” out of the Fox News story. It only says he was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. as a child. That’s a very, very different thing.

Which may be why people have trouble with this. Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

Bush, as a crappy gov. of Texas, may have wanted to uphold TEXAS law, but as even the failed President of the United States, I hope he from time to time remembers his job is to uphold the Constitution of the United States, where treaties trump state laws... even Texas ones.


18 posted on 10/07/2007 4:55:06 AM PDT by rpgdfmx
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To: rpgdfmx

He himself informed law officals upon his arrest that he was not a United States citizen.


20 posted on 10/07/2007 5:06:14 AM PDT by ShadowDancer ("To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.")
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To: rpgdfmx
It only says he was born in Mexico and came to the U.S. as a child. That’s a very, very different thing

He may be here legally, but At the least, he holds mexican citizenship or he would have no footing with the Mexican consulate.

As a Mexican citizen he hold no loyalty to the US. Even with dual citizenship, any loyalty he might claim is dubious. If he is here legally, then how was he allowed here legally, being such a scum. We used to have requirements on residency. He should not be here and the quickest removal is legal lethal injection.

30 posted on 10/07/2007 5:48:13 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: rpgdfmx
>Where do you get that Medellin is an “illegal” out of the Fox News story.

I didn’t read the FOX story, but I am familiar with the case and the killer is not an American. I don’t know about illegal.

>Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

close, but no cigar. No treaty can abrogate or supersede Constitutional law, no matter how ms Ginsburg feels about international law and the supremacy of the communist political system.

And treaties can be legally ignored, abrogated, or unilaterally terminated.

You can’t do that with ease to the Constitution.

33 posted on 10/07/2007 5:58:30 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: rpgdfmx
I get the fact that he is illegal from the fact that the media did not report that he was legal. You known, if the media report on crimes committed by "youths", you can know that the perps are not white. The American news media has to be read, like the Russians used to read Pravda. The truth is to be found is what they do not say, not in what they do say.

Are you willing to take a bet on this?

51 posted on 10/07/2007 9:45:18 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: rpgdfmx
...Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

LOL! Where is that written?

52 posted on 10/07/2007 9:50:52 AM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: rpgdfmx

“I hope he from time to time remembers his job is to uphold the Constitution of the United States,”

Would that be the same Constitution that he swore to uphold and protect our Republic?


68 posted on 10/07/2007 7:42:06 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rpgdfmx
Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

This is true. But this is a State issue and not a Federal issue. That being the case, the treaty does not apply.
89 posted on 10/09/2007 8:54:03 AM PDT by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: rpgdfmx
" . . . Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government."

There is a proviso in Article VI, para 2 which says that Congress can pass no laws which are not in pursuance to the Constitution/Bill of Rights, the supreme law of the land. If laws based on treaties are not repugnant to the supreme law, then they are treated as part of the supreme law, and yes, they do trump state laws.

90 posted on 10/09/2007 9:40:29 AM PDT by Eastbound
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