Death Penalty Case Puts Bush and Texas at Odds Over Mexican's Fate

ClickonDetroit ^ | October 7, 2007 | AP

[ought-six]

“If these animals hadn’t had protection so far by the state of Texas, real TEXAS MEN would have killed them long ago.”

That’s a fact.

[ought-six]

Someone in Mexico must have polaroids of Bush. Either someone has got to him, and is blackmailing him, or he’s as incompetent as the enemy portrays him.

[Don Joe]

And treaties can be legally ignored, abrogated, or unilaterally terminated.

You can’t do that with ease to the Constitution.

Sure you can. They do it all the time.

What did Glorious Leader call it not too long ago? Something like, "It's just a g-d piece of paper"?

[bill1952]

never heard that.

[Don Joe]

never heard that.

Try google: bush constitution "piece of paper"

[bill1952]

Did you read this part?

"This report, if true, would corroborate many things we’ve seen out of the Bush ...

Coming from the MSM - which of course just loves Bush, pretty much sums it up for me.

Or is it fake but accurate?

[Unicorn]

BTTT

[El Cid]

"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.

Although on the surface the President's position is disgusting, I concede that there are other issues involved that we might not be privy to (e.g., 'abide by the ICJ or we'll shutdown the secret factories where we turn Al Queda operatives into Vienna sausages'). Nonetheless, we cannot surrender our Nation's sovereignty to foreign bodies. Regardless of the threats against us from our european 'friends', and the perks we might have to give up, the President's position on this case is wrong and he is failing to defend our Constitution.
Hopefully the Supreme Court will smack this down.

[guardian_of_liberty]

Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

This is true. But this is a State issue and not a Federal issue. That being the case, the treaty does not apply.

[Eastbound]

" . . . Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government."

There is a proviso in Article VI, para 2 which says that Congress can pass no laws which are not in pursuance to the Constitution/Bill of Rights, the supreme law of the land. If laws based on treaties are not repugnant to the supreme law, then they are treated as part of the supreme law, and yes, they do trump state laws.

[TSgt]

When you vote for the lesser of two evils - you still have only evil as a choice.

How unfortunatly true for America...

And I voted for the lessor of the two evils twice...

To hell with him.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

Excellent...Constitution trumps treaties.

[loutherighteousone]

I used to like Bush, until now. He surely must have lost his mind. It is time for him to GO, perhaps straight to Mexico.

[valkyrieanne]

How is it that a treaty which the US Senate never ratified is suddenly binding on the state of Texas?

[beaversmom]

BTTT: This is just a reminder that President Bush was pretty fond of the raping/mudering “Mexicans” too.