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Death Penalty Case Puts Bush and Texas at Odds Over Mexican's Fate
ClickonDetroit ^ | October 7, 2007 | AP

Posted on 10/07/2007 3:48:59 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

Death Penalty Case Puts Bush and Texas at Odds Over Mexican's Fate

Sunday, October 07, 2007

WASHINGTON — President Bush, who presided over 152 executions as governor of Texas, wants to halt the state's execution of a Mexican national for the brutal killing of two teenage girls.

The case of Jose Ernesto Medellin has become a confusing test of presidential power that the U.S. Supreme Court, which hears the case this week, ultimately will sort out.

The president wants to enforce a decision by the International Court of Justice that found the convictions of Medellin and 50 other Mexican-born prisoners violated their rights to legal help as outlined in the 1963 Vienna Convention.

That is the same court Bush has since said he plans to ignore if it makes similar decisions affecting state criminal laws.

"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushlegacy; crimaliens; hispandering; immigration; internationallaw; josemedellin; medellin; readdailykos; sovereignnation; voteclinton2008; worldcourt
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To: texaslil

“If these animals hadn’t had protection so far by the state of Texas, real TEXAS MEN would have killed them long ago.”

That’s a fact.


81 posted on 10/08/2007 11:53:21 AM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: ShadowDancer

Someone in Mexico must have polaroids of Bush. Either someone has got to him, and is blackmailing him, or he’s as incompetent as the enemy portrays him.


82 posted on 10/08/2007 12:02:46 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: bill1952
And treaties can be legally ignored, abrogated, or unilaterally terminated.

You can’t do that with ease to the Constitution.

Sure you can. They do it all the time.

What did Glorious Leader call it not too long ago? Something like, "It's just a g-d piece of paper"?

83 posted on 10/09/2007 8:06:48 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

never heard that.


84 posted on 10/09/2007 8:11:06 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: bill1952
never heard that.

Try google: bush constitution "piece of paper"

85 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:22 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
Did you read this part?

"This report, if true, would corroborate many things we’ve seen out of the Bush ...

Coming from the MSM - which of course just loves Bush, pretty much sums it up for me.

Or is it fake but accurate?

86 posted on 10/09/2007 8:24:18 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: mefistofelerevised

BTTT


87 posted on 10/09/2007 8:41:59 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: ShadowDancer
"The president does not agree with the ICJ's interpretation of the Vienna Convention," the administration said in arguments filed with the court. This time, though, the U.S. agreed to abide by the international court's decision because ignoring it would harm American interests abroad, the government said.

Although on the surface the President's position is disgusting, I concede that there are other issues involved that we might not be privy to (e.g., 'abide by the ICJ or we'll shutdown the secret factories where we turn Al Queda operatives into Vienna sausages'). Nonetheless, we cannot surrender our Nation's sovereignty to foreign bodies. Regardless of the threats against us from our european 'friends', and the perks we might have to give up, the President's position on this case is wrong and he is failing to defend our Constitution.
Hopefully the Supreme Court will smack this down.

88 posted on 10/09/2007 8:52:00 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: rpgdfmx
Whether we like it or not, the U.S. signed the Vienna Treaty, and Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government.

This is true. But this is a State issue and not a Federal issue. That being the case, the treaty does not apply.
89 posted on 10/09/2007 8:54:03 AM PDT by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: rpgdfmx
" . . . Treaties are equal to the U.S. Constitution under our system of government."

There is a proviso in Article VI, para 2 which says that Congress can pass no laws which are not in pursuance to the Constitution/Bill of Rights, the supreme law of the land. If laws based on treaties are not repugnant to the supreme law, then they are treated as part of the supreme law, and yes, they do trump state laws.

90 posted on 10/09/2007 9:40:29 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: buffaloKiller
When you vote for the lesser of two evils - you still have only evil as a choice.

How unfortunatly true for America...

And I voted for the lessor of the two evils twice...

To hell with him.
91 posted on 10/09/2007 11:00:46 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Vigilanteman

Excellent...Constitution trumps treaties.


92 posted on 10/10/2007 8:06:11 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: ShadowDancer

I used to like Bush, until now. He surely must have lost his mind. It is time for him to GO, perhaps straight to Mexico.


93 posted on 10/10/2007 8:51:21 AM PDT by loutherighteousone
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To: ShadowDancer

How is it that a treaty which the US Senate never ratified is suddenly binding on the state of Texas?


94 posted on 10/10/2007 2:02:10 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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BTTT: This is just a reminder that President Bush was pretty fond of the raping/mudering “Mexicans” too.


95 posted on 07/11/2011 4:47:12 PM PDT by beaversmom
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