[Southack]

Statements stand on their own, or not, with or without Google.

If you claim that a system without bias can have ID, then support your claim.

I state otherwise: that a system without bias can *not* have ID. Certainly known examples of ID such as lab pigs that have had their DNA altered to grow human hormones would support my view that bias was responsible for their creation/modification.

You have physical examples supporting your own counter-claims, one presumes. So phrase your argument and support it.

[Coyoteman]

Statements stand on their own, or not, with or without Google.

If you claim that a system without bias can have ID, then support your claim.

I state otherwise: that a system without bias can *not* have ID. Certainly known examples of ID such as lab pigs that have had their DNA altered to grow human hormones would support my view that bias was responsible for their creation/modification.

You have physical examples supporting your own counter-claims, one presumes. So phrase your argument and support it.

Here you are making some of the most outlandish claims on the internet, claims which can't even be found on a google search, and you think the burden of proof is on those who disagree with you?

Here's a competing claim: You're claims are a joke!

Disprove that.

(Good night. I'll check back in the morning after some strong coffee. Make it good.)