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Surveillance Video: Gotbaum's Last Moments At Phoenix Airport
WCBSTV ^ | October 5, 2007 | Andrew Kirtzman

Posted on 10/05/2007 4:11:07 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

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1 posted on 10/05/2007 4:11:09 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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I knew that there had to be more to the story....the pictures and discription of the little homemaker from New York was too disjointed..now we find there may have been drinking involved ...kinda like when a kid dies in a fight..he was always such a good kid....


2 posted on 10/05/2007 4:14:56 AM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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I’m a bit baffled at why this is such a major news story.


3 posted on 10/05/2007 4:16:05 AM PDT by Tolsti
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WCBS TV is a NYC station. The Gotbaum family is a very influential, Dem. family in the city.
4 posted on 10/05/2007 4:19:43 AM PDT by Roccus (Hillary........brought to you by the PRC)
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To: Tolsti
I’m a bit baffled at why this is such a major news story.

First, many people think airport security is over the top. (I don't and I fly every week)

Second, many people miss connections and feel the airlines don't give a damn about it.

Third, Gotbaum has been portrayed as this innocent, svelte home-maker by the media. If you listen to the report, they make her out to be oh-so-sweet. The truth is she had alchol and depression issues her whole life. She drank at the airport bar and missed her connection because of her drinking, not because she was late arriving.

Lastly, Gotbaum is a very connected NY labor family: read liberal.

5 posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:01 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Roccus

They showed the video of her arrest on FOX a while ago. It showed them standing her up after they got her handcuffed and then walking with her down the passageway. She did not seem listless and they weren’t holding her up. They walked at a normal pace. The quality of the video wasn’t good, but she seemed fine.


6 posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:48 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Oh, I hadn’t really paid much attention to who she was really. Makes more sense now.


7 posted on 10/05/2007 4:26:35 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Roccus

Her lawyer is either an idiot OR a lier. The police DO handcuff EVERYONE they have in custody even when they are ‘emotionally distraught’. I have worked in ER for over 20 years, and EVERY time they have brought someone to the ER in this condition ( drunk ,high, out of control, screaming, yelling , spitting AND resisting) they come in in cuffs, and now with “spit masks” frequently on. Once they get in the ER WE then place them in 4 point leather restraints frequently in order to control them.

This was a tragic accident but MOST of the blame is with the woman who could not control herself, AND HER oh so “concerned” family who let this unstable time bomb fly UNACCOMPANIED across the country.


8 posted on 10/05/2007 4:29:18 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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WCBS TV is a NYC station. The Gotbaum family is a very influential, Dem. family in the city.

It surely would seem so ... they just happened to come across a copy of the concourse video and note the title calls it "last moments." They sure jumped to a conclusion there. Note how now it isn't the woman's fault at all. The strong implication is that the cops killed ger during the takedown and the rest of the time was spend fabricating a cover-up. Dubya SeeBS. Yep.

9 posted on 10/05/2007 4:29:30 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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I saw the film too, and she seemed to be quite combative and wasn’t being docile at all. Looks as though the cops got it right in this case, and it is sad no-one from her family went with her to help her in a very trying time in her life. (She was going to alcohol rehab facility in Tucson.) Family must have been too busy being democratic politicians to care for their own, and are laying off the blame for her death on the cops. Another load of horsesh.. from New York for the rest of the world to handle.


10 posted on 10/05/2007 4:29:45 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Tolsti
I’m a bit baffled at why this is such a major news story.

Because the OJ trial is months away and things are pretty quiet between Britney and K-fed right now. They have to fill the time with something.

11 posted on 10/05/2007 4:30:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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Yeah, me too. Drunks die in jail drunk tanks every day. Choke on their own vomit, hang themselves with their underwear, etc. What’s the hubbub, Bub?


12 posted on 10/05/2007 4:31:11 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bring me the head of Miley Cyrus!)
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To: Tolsti

Betsy and Victor Gotbaum are People Who Matter. When PWMs or their family members die in drunk tanks, it is big news.


13 posted on 10/05/2007 4:39:11 AM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: Tolsti

Me too. I guess it is like being a Cleveland Browns fan. If you don’t get it, well, you just don’t get it.


15 posted on 10/05/2007 4:40:55 AM PDT by Paulus
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Isn’t it less than an hour to drive from Phoenix to Tucson?


16 posted on 10/05/2007 4:43:27 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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I’m a bit baffled at why this is such a major news story.

I agree with some other posts on this thread. There are two classes of people in this country- the oligarachy and everyone else.

When weird stuff happens to the oligarachy the rest of us are in mortal peril.

Remember, Vince Foster was unquestionably a suicide!

Best regards,

17 posted on 10/05/2007 4:47:18 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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The MSM will do anything to keep from reporting Hillary’s crimes!
18 posted on 10/05/2007 4:49:29 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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There are two classes of people in this country- the oligarachy and everyone else.

I think you will find that some people matter more than others regardless of where you go. It's not an American thing.

19 posted on 10/05/2007 4:54:11 AM PDT by freespirited (All great truths begin as blasphemies. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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AND HER oh so “concerned” family who let this unstable time bomb fly UNACCOMPANIED across the country.

And there you have it. Either they couldn't care less or they'd given up on her and didn't want to deal with whatever she was bound to dish up on the way to the treatment center, if she really ever entended to get there.

20 posted on 10/05/2007 4:58:42 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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