Posted on 10/04/2007 10:19:26 PM PDT by Soft Bigotry
After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.
The other issue discussed at length concerned the advisability of creating a third party if Democrats and Republicans do indeed abandon the sanctity of human life and other traditional family values. Though there was some support for the proposal, no consensus emerged.
Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent or the other leaders gathered in Salt Lake City, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed.
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“Rudy can beat Clinton in 2008”
I don’t think he can without the support of most of the social conservitives. I know for a fact that he would not get them all....
Hillary and Hillary-light
My sentiments exactly.
I’m a practicing Catholic/Christian and I will never vote 3rd party this election. A pro-abort dem or a pro-abort repub where do we have a shot? I know my answer.
I’m a repub because I’m pro military, pro gun ownership, pro life. Pro non whiners, the govt owes me, life owes me nonsense. The dem party is socialist completely now and I will never support that. We haven’t lost the repub party yet.
Liberal Republicans like JulieAnnie are much more dangerous than liberal democrats,,,
because liberal Republicans like Rudy BLUR THE DISTINCTION between conservatism and liberalism,,,
MAKING LIBERALISM MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE!!
“How would a New York City Mayor and noted former federal prosecutor be worse than Hillary?”
Easy... As a liberal republican president he would get the support for his positions not only from the democrats but many republicans as well.
On the other hand, Hillary would face the opposition of the republican party. It would be much harder for her to get anything done.
“Does that mean FR agrees with Dobson and will go third party, then?”
Let’s pray we don’t have to find out... I signed up very recently, after years as a lurker, for the primary purpose of helping wishy-washy conservatives realize how unacceptable Giuliani is even to those of us who normally aren’t that politically active. A look at the mission statement will reveal that this is not and has never been a Republican website, but one for the discussion and furtherment of CONSERVATIVE ideals. Republicans have latched onto it and muddied the waters with their sometimes false belief that party affiliation is what defines liberals or conservatives.
That definition is becoming increasingly obsolete. We’ve been voting against our own best interests, allowing others to frame the debate in terms of “Stopping the other guy” instead of in terms of “Let’s do the right thing.”
Many of us have been aligned with the Republican party just for lack of anywhere else to go. Increasing frustration, repeated backstabbings, and the endless refrain of “Just this one last time, I’ll vote for the lesser of two evils” has grown tiresome. We can’t bring ourselves to donate money to the RNC until they fix our border problems, and GOP coffers are running on empty as a result.
The divorce from the party is well under way... The problem is, it’s not conservatives that started the breach. We have consistently told the party it was headed in the wrong direction, while rewarding its undeserving candidates with our votes ANYWAY.
I don’t know if anyone will form a new third party or not. But I can assure you that if Rudy Giuliani appears on the Republican ticket I will search high and low for a candidate I feel comfortable supporting, even if its the imaginary Blueberry Biscuit Party.
I find myself increasingly unconcerned with the political fortunes of the Republican party. I want to see some policy makers with some spine, who are willing to stand up for what is right, whether or not the GOP establishment agrees with them. As of right now, that is a daydream.
We are not slaves. We don’t owe ANYTHING to the GOP. They think our votes are automatic, because they know no matter how much we complain when it comes down to it we will support them anyway. This cannot be allowed to continue. So yeah, I can’t speak for FR, but for myself - Giuliani becoming the face of the Republican party assures it is no party I plan on attending.
Does that mean FR agrees with Dobson and will go third party, then?
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Jim will speak for FR,,,not me,,,
As he said before,,,”A Hill To Die On”,,,As I remember of course...
Read Jim Robinson’s Mission Statement for FR...NO ROOTY !!
Statement like this simply show that you are basing your arguments on emotion, not facts. There is a huge difference between the parties. Your failure to recognize such shows that you have been fed talking points from who knows what source and cannot realistically look at reality.
Why can’t the Rudy-Apologists understand that????
I think it could be easily argued that the country and the globe have moved more to the left;
could we have imagined even discussing same-sex marriage, for one example, not more than 10 or 20 years ago?
I’m not saying I approve; I’m just saying “look around.”
I am a Republican because I am for smaller federal government, less taxes, and a strong military.
The GOP can not win without people like me or people like you. It may suck, but we will have to compromise to gain a GOP victory in 2008. Single issue voters who will not compromise = another Clinton in the White House.
I an pro military and I WILL NOT let Clinton become CIC. If Rudy is the person who can keep her from becoming CIC, then so be it.
BTW, as much as we do not like it, abortion will never become illegal again in America.
I completely disagree. I too want a repub/conservative congress but NEVER Hillary in the White House.
I really don’t think Guiliani or any repub candidate, even McCain, could cause the kind of damage to this country that Hillary/Obama/Edwards can. Especially Hillary. I’d rather see the latter two than Hillary in the White House, at all costs.
Hillary is the Clinton Presidency and I think we’re forgetting just what happened to our country during that Admin.
Hillary as Pres will do more damage in 4 years, and she’d only last 4 years, than Carter did during his presidency imo. I’m not willing to chance a Hillary presidency, ever.
I don’t know. Perhaps their closet liberals...
We are TOTALLY against abortion, the President can do nothing about stopping abortion but we can by having laws passed in our states against it.
No way will we give the Clintons another win. We did not vote when dubya's father ran because we did not like his politics. It was a huge mistake!
The Republican Party has been moving to the left for years. If you think that the Republican Party is JUST NOT LIBERAL ENOUGH,,,,
and you want to ACCELERATE that movement to the left to achieve the liberal NIRVANA of two political parties--BOTH to the left of center,,,,
RUDY IS THE RIGHT MAN AT THE RIGHT TIME!!
Er, um, okee dokee. Whatever.
Good luck with that.
I’m a repub because I’m pro military, pro gun ownership, pro life. Pro non whiners, the govt owes me, life owes me nonsense. The dem party is socialist completely now and I will never support that. We haven’t lost the repub party yet.
Ditto's to that!!
We are Mennonite/Christian.
Exactly. W's dad moved too far to the left, and he caused Perot to be an option. So now some want to AGAIN move the Party to the left with a liberal like Rudy???
Guess what? The same thing will happen.
If you want to elect Hillary by SPLITTING and DIVIDING the Party WIDE OPEN (just like it happened before),,,
while DEMORALIZING THE BASE,,,
a liberal like Rudy is the RIGHT MAN AT THE RIGHT TIME.
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