Posted on 10/04/2007 10:19:26 PM PDT by Soft Bigotry
After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.
The other issue discussed at length concerned the advisability of creating a third party if Democrats and Republicans do indeed abandon the sanctity of human life and other traditional family values. Though there was some support for the proposal, no consensus emerged.
Speaking personally, and not for the organization I represent or the other leaders gathered in Salt Lake City, I firmly believe that the selection of a president should begin with a recommitment to traditional moral values and beliefs. Those include the sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage, and other inviolable pro-family principles. Only after that determination is made can the acceptability of a nominee be assessed.
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Have you considered the damage RINOs like Christie Todd Whitman and Arnold Schwarzenegger have done when elected.
Which President gave us the largest expansion of government since the Lyndon Johnson administration?
Which President put David Souter on the Supreme Court? John Paul Stevens?
1998
No. Hillary Clinton and her “husband” have harmed the USA more than any other political pair I have seen in my more than 50 years. It’s my opinion that we can tolerate Rudy for 4 years - 4 years of the Clintons I think we could not tolerate.
There’s a difference between taking what some view as distasteful and immoral positions on social issues (abortion, for example) and outright criminality, which is the difference between Rudy and the Clintons. The latter are a mix of Rudy’s views and the activities of a Mafia Don. The trump card is that letting the democrat party take control will force us to surrender to the islamic nazis simultaneously bankrupting the country and ushering in an era of leftwing totalitarianism not seen since Stalin. The Clintons are that bad, IMHO.
I appreciate your view and hope you understand mine.
I think that Dobson must be a closet Democrat if he pulls a stunt like this.
If he backs any candidate other than a Republican he will be pulling a Ross Perot and giving the election to Hillary Clinton....................................................
I DON`T UNDERSTAND....Why doesn`t every good Republican just get behind this threat and nip Rudy G in the bud NOW?
Another thing...Why would it not be the fault of those that supported Rudy, rather than blaming the Christian wing of the party??
Why is it not just the fault of the loser Republicans that insist on Rudy?? That`s what I don`t understand.
Lets put the blame where it belongs.
I would love a true blue conservative in the white house. And like most politicians, Rudy panders to whoever he’s trying to get to vote for him.
Rudy has said he will nominate a constitutionalist as his supreme court appointee. Will he? I have no idea. He may , he may not.
But I know this. Hillary’s husband nominated RBG. That’s what she LIKES. She will definately go for another RBG.
This is politics. I would love to be 100% principled, and stand up and say, I would never vote for anyone but the most perfect candidate. But I am practical. Would I take someone who panders to me, and may or may not put in a good candidate, or would I take someone who with every breath in her body will fight for socialism and humanism and proabortion, and has sworn to put such people on the court?
I will vote for Rudy, and have no moral problem with it at all. Hillary must be defeated.
Just think, of how she will reach into your life to keep you from running it according to biblical principles. How she will start to control the schools. (for the children). To recreate the country according to her humanist, progressive ideals. How she will control your life. How she will control your health. How she will start to order how you live (For your own good). How she will take your income from you. How she will bring homosexuality into the mainstream. How many children will die when she expands abortion programs all over the globe.
It can’t be allowed. We must fight with every weapon at our disposal to keep her from a position of power.
Not publicly, no. He said he didn't have time to help with Haggard's supposed "restoration therapy" that took place soon after the whole thing broke last fall. Basically, Dobson issued a statement before it was know to be true that it was awful that the media was spreading rumors and lies - I can't remember his exact words - but that was it in a nutshell. After it all turned out to be true (and more), Dobson no longer had time to help his once close friend.
Make of that what you will.
Just don't put them too close to the signs that say "Ronald Reagan Highway" near Monument Hill, please.
I do understand your opinion, it is about what I expected. Vote for the devil as long as he, she, or it is a republican. :0)
Yes - if it’s against the Clinton criminals.
I’m 1000 miles away - put them where it will get James’s attention and help change his misguided way in this matter.
No one here likes Guiliani; the question is, is the site willing to split with the Republican Party over it?
That is the split to which I refer.
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Yes I read the thread,,,
This is what I referred to,,,:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts
Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We’ve got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God’s existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children’s education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I’m going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
You could easily turn it around and say that people voting for George Walker Bush kept Perot from winning the presidency...
Sounds like you are just whining.
If Rudy does become the candidate we will vote for him as we would prefer him to another Clinton as President, Hillary is a MARXIST.
So if he wins the primary, it is very imperative for the rest of us Christians to know; WHO will you then vote for???
We are not behind Rudy, we prefer Duncan Hunter but will probably vote for Thompson in the primary in order to make sure that Rudy DOES NOT BECOME THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE in the 2008 election for President.
If Rudy does become the candidate we will vote for him as we would prefer him to another Clinton as President, Hillary is a MARXIST.
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ONLY 1 QUESTION FOR YOU??? You say WE are not behind Rudy and We prefer Duncan Hunter and We will vote for him...
Who is the “WE” you speak of in your post?? Just curious, who do you represent beside yourself :)
WE - myself, my husband, both of my daughters and their husbands and all five of our grand children. Unfortunately my parents passed away this year or they would have also voted as we plan on voting. Eleven votes, not many but we hope they help.
“Because, in reality, voting for a third party will do nothing more than split the Republican vote and literally hand the White House to Hillary on a silver platter. Now which would you rather have if thats what it came down to?”
On moral issues, there is NO difference between H & G. If the Republican Party is going to abandon moral clarity, then it is time to abandon the Republican Party. Moral Value voters have become to the RNC what Black voters are to the DNC.
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