The Values Test [Dobson Will Back Third-Party if Giuliani is Nominated]

The New York Times ^ | October 4, 2007 | JAMES C. DOBSON

[Guenevere]

Your post is THE scummiest, most deplorable, vile I have read here at Free Republic.

Your words are unconscionable!...You are unconscionable!

[6ppc]

I wonder if Dobson isn’t testing his own political power here; maybe he wants to run at the top of the ticket of this third party?

I'm thinking you are correct. Dobson is starting to act like a grandstanding demogogue.

[BibChr]

bvw: “Our hardest-working friends are our enemies! Bash friends! Bash Dobson!”

[seemoAR]

I totally agree with you. This is a conservative website. I don’t think any one even answered you.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

Does Dobson seriously consider Mitt Romney to be an acceptable choice for President? What does Dobson think about Mitt Romney?

[Soft Bigotry]

There are times I briefly think a Christian third party is a good idea...then I remember we are up against Satan HERself.

Well, if you literally believe Hillary Clinton is Satan, I think you'd have to go "Christian third party", right?

[bvw]

bvw: “Don’t elect Hillery by omission! Vote the GOP. Fight for your candidate in the primary, support whomever wins the party nod. Otherwise bow before Queen Hillary and Consort Billy Jeff”

[CDHart]

I hope Dobson doesn't encourage another party and end up handing the whole thing to Hillary.

Carolyn

[John Leland 1789]

“I wonder if Dobson isn’t testing his own political power here; maybe he wants to run at the top of the ticket of this third party?”

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I don’t believe Dr. Dobson is interested in a presidential run. But what confuses me is that there are one or two alternative parties he should already know about and be interested in, if he’s thinking about endorsing a third party.

[finnman69]

James Dobson 'contributes' to the right like Al Shaprton contributes to african americans. He's a poverty pimp of a different flavor, in it for himself.

He's not nearly as important as he cries out to be, plus, if there is any third party that takes off, it would be an independent Bloomberg run which could really cause electoral havoc to both of the two parties strategies

A pro-life single issue platform would be in a '4th' or '5th party' position. Barely a blip, a craction of a percent, not a double digit result.

	Presidential Candidate	Vice Presidential Candidate	Political Party	Popular Vote		Electoral Vote
	George W. Bush	Richard Cheney	Republican	62,040,610	50.73%	286	53.16%
	John Kerry	John Edwards	Democratic	59,028,439	48.27%	251	46.65%
	Ralph Nader	Peter Camejo	Independent	463,655	0.38%	0	0.00%
	Michael Badnarik	Richard Campagna	Libertarian	397,265	0.32%	0	0.00%
	Michael Peroutka	Charles Baldwin	Constitution	144,499	0.12%	0	0.00%
	David Cobb	Pat LaMarche	Green	119,859	0.10%	0	0.00%
	Write-ins	-	-	36,585	0.03%	0	0.00%
	Leonard Peltier	Janice Jordan	Peace & Freedom	27,607	0.02%	0	0.00%
	Walt Brown	Mary Alice Herbert	Socialist	10,822	0.01%	0	0.00%
	Roger Calero	Arrin Hawkins	Socialist Workers	10,795	0.01%	0	0.00%
	None of these Candidates	-	-	3,688	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Thomas Harens	Jennifer Ryan	Christian Freedom	2,387	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Gene Amondson	Leroy Pletten	Concerns of People	1,944	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Bill Van Auken	Jim Lawrence	Socialist Equality	1,857	0.00%	0	0.00%
	John Parker	Teresa Gutierrez	Workers World	1,646	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Charles Jay	Marilyn Taylor	Personal Choice	946	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Stanford Andress	Irene Deasy	Independent	804	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Earl Dodge	Howard Lydick	Prohibition	140	0.00%	0	0.00%

[finnman69]

You can have Alito, Scalia, Roberts (who Giuliani specifically mentioned as the kind of justices he would nominate)

OR

Stevens, Ginsberg, or Kennedy

[Little Ray]

Ya know, I’m religous, I’m right-wing, and I don’t like Rudy Guiliani as Republican candidate for president (he’d be fine as a Democrat...). But I think this Dobson person is really full of himself.

Go Fred!

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

This makes me think less of Dobson. These “leaders” who think they have such power that they can influence what others think and do, have an inflated view of themselves.

[finnman69]

James Dobson

is not this guy

He's the equivalent of this fraud

[Soft Bigotry]

Wikipedia says the Constitution Party is only on the ballot in 15 states, and not even as “the Constitution Party” in about half of those - so it’d have to be some sort of independent run, and I don’t know what the rules are on getting on the ballot that way.

[xzins]

See #139

And there is enough unrest to pull of a hijacking of the Republican conservative voters who are attracted to a “Conservative Republican Party.”

The bottom line, though, is that anyone who nominates Rudy DESIRES to lose to Hillary. They know that conservative Christians can never vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

They should switch to a candidate like Hunter, Huckabee, Thompson, who support life. As it stands, Rudy has zero chance of winning.

[Vanbasten]

Why don’t you throw a temper tantrum there Dobbs?

Supporting a third party candidate will only help Hillary.

[Hattie]

History repeats. No lesson learned. Welcome Hillary and Socialism.

[Hattie]

Then, you're stating you'd rather be stuck without a chance at conservative President for eight years and are willing to see the Republicans lose considerably more seats in Congress and become an entrenched minority for, likely, a decade.

So if FT is the great candidate being espoused so rabidly on every thread here, then why are so many here concerned about Rudy being nominated? This just doesn't make sense to me.

[P-Marlowe]

We got Bill Clinton because of Ross Perot.

Wrong. We got Bill Clinton because we chose Bob Dole. If we get Hillary it will be because we chose Giuliani.