Posted on 10/04/2007 9:40:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
When Mitt Romney appeared last week (via closed circuit from California) before the Council of Retired Chief Executives meeting in Washington, he faced kindred souls: rich Republicans who had managed big enterprises. Yet the second question from the audience was whether Romney's Mormon faith was hurting his quest for the Republican presidential nomination. He replied that about the only people who brought up his religion were members of the media, an answer that simply is untrue.
Romney is asked about Mormonism wherever he goes. In my travels, I find his religious preference cited everywhere as the source of opposition to his candidacy. His response to the former chief executives that only reporters care about this issue sounded like a politician's tired evasion. Romney was either too obtuse to appreciate his problem or was stalling because he had not determined how to deal with it. Contact with his advisers indicates that it's the latter.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Here are some Famous Mormons who have contributed to our society in so many different ways. As is the case with most bigots, you are uninformed.
Indeed. That's why I asked for a source. A picture like that isn't something I can see a Mormon posing for.
That’s what I mean when I say I think its a fetish.
Whoever said LDS were "non-contributors" to society? (Of course, many LDS have been and continue to be important contributors to society).
But just because I can point to one talk show journalist-slash-Scientologist whose been a contributor to the media; or a couple of famous-name actors-slash-Scientologists who I could say have been "contributors to the arts," doesn't mean they have the qualities I want in a president.
It just seems like some people can't let go of the fact that the individual voter determines the qualities they are looking for in a candidate. It somehow unnerves them that this factor is "uncontrolable."
The people in his state are. If your comparison is true then we would have seen an increase in membership in the LDS church after Mitt's election. That didn't happen, so your theory is disproven.
Perhaps not. Post 76 did, but it has now been removed by the moderator, so I can't see who posted it. (Couldn't find it in my posting history either, so I presume when the mod removed it, it took it out of my posting history. Either that or I really need a cup of coffee.)
So I apologize to you since you didn't say it. But clearly, there's no pentagram in the picture that was posted, so the poster of #76 was in error. (Surprise, surprise.)
As to the link you posted, I can't speak to it's accuracy. I know at least one person posted to me on this thread indicating that disfellowshipped Mormons are never told (or asked) not to wear the undergarments, so there appears to be some disagreement.
At any rate, I didn't find the picture of the garments that was posted, but again, maybe I need a cup of coffee really bad. I would find it surprising if Mormons would pose in the garments for a picture since they consider them so sacred.
And I don’t understand why you are so obsessed with our underwear. And not just that you’re so obsessed but so completely wrong about it to boot. And whether you call them pentagrams or stars (as in the three degrees of glory: the sun, the moon and the stars) neither of them are on our underwear. Get help. Seriously.
Well, we’ll have to disagree. I think you are in a cult that uses you and exerts social pressure to keep you from learning the truth about Mormon history and beliefs. You think people that oppose cults are bigots. But I’m not voting for Romney. My wife’s not voting for Romney. I know people in at least three Christian churches around here that won’t vote for Romney. I know people in churches in both central and North Florida that won’t vote for Romney, because he is a Mormon. And this is Florida, a swing state. You’ve got the churches, the cubans and the good old boys (and girls) here for the most part in the republican party and you can’t win without the bulk of all of them . . . Forget Romney. He can’t win the Presidency. Too much of the base knows what Mormonism is to elect him.
Maybe if you stop lying about your church in missions (saying you don’t believe in multiple gods and the like) to sucker people in, and in your advertising falsely claim to be Christian when you know what people think you mean by that . . . it’s intentionally misleading . . . then reaction won’t be as strong.
I disagree. I don’t think most people don’t know the name of their Governor much less his religion. I think most people could tell you that Bush is a Christian.
It is quite silly to focus on sacred undergarments as a reason not to vote for someone. But then, there are a lot of really silly people in these United States.
And you are naive if you don’t think Mormon Missionaries wouldn’t use it to suck people in.
I’ll pose.
I see. So which candidate currently running best epitomizes the faith you believe should be promoted?
I didn’t say there were pentagrams on your underwear. In fact I stated quite plainly that there are not.
However there is a square and a compass - Masonic symbols on knee, navel and nipples. I own the underwear. Quit lying.
It’s not about promoting a faith. It’s about not promoting a cult. There is a difference. Cults use people and create a stumbling block to the truth. They are not good. Would you vote for a Scientologist? A Moonie? Why not?
You’re a fruit loop.
You don’t need coffee, someone did say that Mormons wore pentagrams on their “underwear.”
It doesn't unnerve me. I trust the voters to make up their own mind on whom they want to vote for. I can recall in 1960 that the conventional wisdom was that a Catholic couldn't be elected President because of the influence of the Pope and divided allegiances. I am confident that most Americans will judge Romney on his merits and abilities and not on his religion. The bigots are much fewer in number today than they were in 1960.
In other words, disconnected, uninformed and living in his or her own little world. Such a person isn't going to join a certain religion because of a president, especially a demanding one such as Mormonism.
All this Mormon bashing is exactly how Ted Kennedy (bearly) beat Romney for the Senate. He flooded the Mass. media with scary anti-Mormon crap.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.