27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)

Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

[DesScorp]

“It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.”

Do that math. 46 is still greater than 44.

[fluffdaddy]

Funny, isn’t it, that nobody ever responds directly to the point that all this argument about whether conservatives should vote for Rudy is beside the point. If Giuliani is the nominee the Republican Party will fracture and defeat is almost guaranteed. Barring a total implosion of the Democrat Party, Rudy = electoral disaster.

Arguing that people who loathe the man should turn out in force and vote for him anyway merely to avoid a Clinton restoration is like standing on the beach and cajoling the tide to refrain from coming in. It is a waste of breath, or in this case bandwidth.

Conservatives need to stop squabbling about how best to deal with the catastrophe of a Guiliani nomination and start working together to avoid that catastrophe.

[Bainbridge]

I think you are really rather pompous. Who do you seriously think has a chance of beating Hillary
Tom Tancredo? Mike Huckaby?
or perhaps Alan Keyes. Do you honestly think that a third party could win? Has it ever done anything other than give us, hmm, let’s see Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton?
No, I will not support a third party candidate./> And by the way I consider it a supreme insult that you sneeringly question whether or not I maintain my beliefs. I have not done that to anyone- I simply disagree with your assessment of the best strategy. But you choose to slander me.Save your effort, I will not reply to you again.

[Bainbridge]

Watch out: you will be accused of being a troll. Or perhaps you have just given up your beliefs so that you could hang with the “ Country club Republicans”. I guess we have a list here of who we can thank if it is a close election between the only 2 real candidates, you know “D” and “R”.

[penowa]

I have two words for you - WAKE UP! Sorry if I frighten you, but maybe that’s what you need to come out of your deep slumber and see what is going on and where we’re headed.

[penowa]

I no longer listen and take direction from the phony Republican elites like Blankley, Barnes, Krauthammer, etc. If you want to march to their tune instead of thinking for yourself, that’s up to you.

[Rockitz]

We played that game out here in California with Arnold and have been sorely disappointed. In hindsight, I wished I’d voted my heart for McClintock and risked the valley that Cruz Bustamante would have given us. Now it’s a slow death and the GOP in California will never survive. I will not vote for Rudy. More babies will be saved in the long term if the people are so sickened by a Hillary presidency that they will never vote Democrat or a RINO again.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Dr. Paul promised his wife of 50 years that he would not run as a 3rd party or independent candidate

That's touching. Really. He's running anyway.

I'll ping you when it happens.

[penowa]

“Rudy Derangement Syndrome” = Voters who Refuse to Vote for Liberals of any Party!

[finnman69]

Vote Third. It's the only way to be stand up and be counted.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was funny, you made laugh!

	Presidential Candidate	Vice Presidential Candidate	Political Party	Popular Vote		Electoral Vote
	George W. Bush	Richard Cheney	Republican	62,040,610	50.73%	286	53.16%
	John Kerry	John Edwards	Democratic	59,028,439	48.27%	251	46.65%
	Ralph Nader	Peter Camejo	Independent	463,655	0.38%	0	0.00%
	Michael Badnarik	Richard Campagna	Libertarian	397,265	0.32%	0	0.00%
	Michael Peroutka	Charles Baldwin	Constitution	144,499	0.12%	0	0.00%
	David Cobb	Pat LaMarche	Green	119,859	0.10%	0	0.00%
	Write-ins	-	-	36,585	0.03%	0	0.00%
	Leonard Peltier	Janice Jordan	Peace & Freedom	27,607	0.02%	0	0.00%
	Walt Brown	Mary Alice Herbert	Socialist	10,822	0.01%	0	0.00%
	Roger Calero	Arrin Hawkins	Socialist Workers	10,795	0.01%	0	0.00%
	None of these Candidates	-	-	3,688	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Thomas Harens	Jennifer Ryan	Christian Freedom	2,387	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Gene Amondson	Leroy Pletten	Concerns of People	1,944	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Bill Van Auken	Jim Lawrence	Socialist Equality	1,857	0.00%	0	0.00%
	John Parker	Teresa Gutierrez	Workers World	1,646	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Charles Jay	Marilyn Taylor	Personal Choice	946	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Stanford Andress	Irene Deasy	Independent	804	0.00%	0	0.00%
	Earl Dodge	Howard Lydick	Prohibition	140	0.00%	0	0.00%

[Ol' Sparky]

There is no difference in the judges we're going to get from Clinton or Giuliani. Giuliani appointed liberal judges by an 8-1 margins in New York. He would be dealing with a Democratic Senate who would have veto power over any nominee he chooses. Given that, there is no chance Giuliani will do anything but give the Democrats a nominee they find acceptable, which would be a liberal justices

The only way to get conservative judges on the court is to nomination a conservative President that has a desire to appoint conservative justices to the courts.

[epow]

These are facts of life. There’s no point in arguing about them.

Are you sure you addressed your reply to the right poster? I didn't intend to argue with anyone, and I thought I made it quite clear where I stand on Rudy being nominated.

If I didn't let me try again. In short, I think it would mean Hillary as our next president, and that would be an unmitigated disaster for both the Republican party and the nation. Furthermore, if by some miracle Rudy were to win the general election it would be a somewhat less complete but still significant disaster for the US, all conservative Americans, and the future viability of the GOP. Is that clear enough?

[Ol' Sparky]

And the tactics that the anti Rudy people are using sicken me.

The lack of principle and stupidity of the pro-Rudy people makes me sick.

Liberal Republicans do far more harm then liberal Democrats.

[scarface367]

Well simple reality is the next president will be from one of the two parties. This is the real world, so not voting for either means you end up with the greater of two evils.

[television is just wrong]

another 50% won’t vote for Giulianni because he wants open borders and doesn’t think an ILLEGAL ALIEN broke the law by crossing the border.

[stockstrader]

Loonies? A loony is a 'so-called' Republican that is willing to compromise traditional values and principles to support a LIBERAL who epitomizes the EXACT OPPOSITE of the long-held, traditional, core, bedrock values and principles held by conservatives.

Only a 'looney' would toss the traditional conservative base 'under the bus' to support a liberal. Go figure.

[joonbug]

So then how exactly does sitting on my hands and not voting for a less than ideal Republican nominee, thereby helping to elect a radical socialist Democrat, help anything?

[MEGoody]

That would be better advice for Ron Paul or one of the other asterixes.

Actually, I'd like to see both Ronnie and Rudy out of the race.

[Auntie Toots]

You, said, "It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win."

I agree with you. A third party is a waste of money, and a spoiler for the Republican party."

Anyway there is no such thing as a perfect candidate.... I wish Dr. Dobson and other religious conservatives would come to their senses....If not, they'll only help get Hillary elected. And that would certainly be worse than if either Guliani or Thompson is elected.