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1 posted on 10/03/2007 1:19:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The reason for the 11th is you may want to nominate some of those guys for cabinet positions in your administration..............


2 posted on 10/03/2007 1:23:46 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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He should call these RINOs for what they are. Period.


4 posted on 10/03/2007 1:36:14 PM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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While Rooty is still the front runner, Fred’s had significant success and positive results knocking down Rooty`s overall support. Fred will need to concentrate on pointing out Rooty`s liberal record again and again. Whatever it takes. For conservatives, taking down Rooty remains priority #1 and Fred`s the man who can get the job done.


5 posted on 10/03/2007 1:40:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees !!!)
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Actuallly, I think that FDT will attract many moderate Democrats and Republicans, while he repels conservative Christian Republicans and Democrats.

I have yet to hear what Fred Thompson has done that qualifies him for the presidency.


7 posted on 10/03/2007 1:57:14 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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The 12th Commandment, according to Thompson: “Don’t speak ill of them until they speak ill of me. And then really speak ill of them.”

I LOVE IT !!!
11 posted on 10/03/2007 2:04:50 PM PDT by no dems (Don't hate me and call me names because you can't reply to my posts intelligently.)
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far as I can tell. It seems that a lot of candidates have been campaigning for a long time and voters don’t know a lot of things about a lot of them.”

LOL, look who's talking.

46 posted on 10/03/2007 3:41:13 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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Ah, yes, The Van Der Galiën Gazette, a place that describes itself as “of by and for moderate Republicans”

IOW “RINOs R Us”

Gee, I guess I have to now apologize for supporting someone who actually stands for Republican values?

Sorry, not buying it.


65 posted on 10/03/2007 6:11:09 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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Giuliani’s opponents realize that if they don’t attack him - truly attack him - he may very well take the nomination. Not only does that mean that they might as well give up, it also means that their party will be lead by someone who disagrees with the party’s base about the issues it once cared most about.

Fred has to start taking out Giuliani's support. Mitt is trying but hasn't succeeded.

They have to draw away 5%-10% of Rudith's current polled support to win the nomination and stop the leftwing mayor.

They need to take the gloves off in these debates.
79 posted on 10/04/2007 5:28:02 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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Why Rasmussen thinks that Fred has a much better chance of winning than the conventional wisdom thinks:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/an_in_depth_look_at_who_votes_decides_the_gop_primaries_a_commentary_by_douglas_schoen

By the way, that’s confirmed in FR’s own unscientific poll - FDT leads all candidates, and we Freepers are among the best informed voters out there.


By the way, for all of the folks on the thread bashing Fred or bashing Duncan Hunter - come on, just stop it. Either one would make a very good or great President. MUCH more importantly, either one is head and shoulders above the rest of the field - and that’s who we have to compare these men to, not some theoretical ideal. Neither will be perfect, but neither was Reagan (who seems to be everyone’s favorite President here on FR, including mine).

I personally like Duncan Hunter’s stances on the issues better than Fred’s. In a perfect world where pure merit won out every time, he’d end up as the nominee and beat the Dem, and I’d be honored to vote for him. But that world only exists when your eyes are closed. Here in the real world, Fred is cruising along somewhere in the 20’s, while Duncan Hunter is significantly under 5%. Even though I’m not happy that a man like Hunter is seemingly being ignored, that’s the fact. He has no chance to win the nomination at this point and, more importantly, IMHO he couldn’t beat Hillary. The man won’t even be able to win his home state. Sad but true.

So I’ve settled on Fred, and not without enthusiasm. He says an awful lot that I like: he’s pro-gun, in favor of low taxes, true federalism, wants a strong foreign and defense policy, wants to control the borders, is against homosexual marriages, etc., etc. Again, the man and his record aren’t perfect...but so what, we’re not nominating someone for the pantheon of greatest political theorists of all time - we’re nominating someone to take on whoever the Dems nominee, who at this point is pretty clearly Hillary. Can you imagine what will happen if that anti-gun, pro-tax, anti-defense Socialist witch becomes President?

Fred has, IMHO, the best chance of all Republicans to beat her. Let’s look at the rest **who have any chance of getting the nomination**:

Rudy? No way. Another guy who won’t win his home state. He already lost to Hillary, except that he tried to avoid it by leaving the race, citing his cancer. It was an excuse. Even if not, he was badly trailing her at the time he withdrew. He simply doesn’t have enough differences with her to get people motivated. Also, many Republicans simply won’t vote for him (up to 27%, according to one poll I saw). Not only is the party’s base not going to be fired up, they’re going to be actively turned off - not a great recipe for winning elections, esp. against a pretty well-oiled political machine that revels in getting down in the mud and fighting there with no rules. He’ll get CREAMED.

Romney? Besides the fact that I don’t see him as the nominee, he flip-flops a bunch - which Hillary will use against him. He doesn’t, perhaps cannot, fire up the Republican base, and without that, fuhgedaboudit.

McCain? Puhleeze! The man was a hero in Vietnam, and I will always have immense respect for what he did there. Its just the things he’s done since then that bother me. First, start with McCain/Feingold - a more pure case of an unconstitutional law I could not find (and the Supremes REALLY dropped the ball on this one), and he SPONSORED it. His status as an attention-hogging “maverick” comes with a price - you tick off a lot of people in your own party, people who won’t open their wallets, work for you, talk to family & friends about you, and maybe not even vote for you. His apparent inability to control his temper is not exactly the first characteristic that I look for in a President with his finger figuratively on the button. Besides, he shoots himself in the foot about every 2 weeks. He has no chance - he’d go down like Dole did in ‘96.

Which leaves who, besides Fred? No one, that’s who. Fred is a genuine conservative, even if not a perfect one. He is very genuine, humble, comfortable in his own skin and with his views, very able to interact with the average person, very confidence-inspiring. This stuff attracts people, even those that don’t agree with you. For those that do agree with you, its like a drug (just like Reagan was for those of us old enough to have been politically aware back then). He’ll fire up the base - in spades. He’ll attract a lot of Reagan Dems and independents. How is Hillary going to capture any of the Bush ‘04 states from him? Heck, it’ll be the other way around - SHE will be on the defensive, spending lots of time in her base states to make sure she’s got them, and more time in those states that were close in Kerry’s favor last time - some of which she’ll lose. I’m going to go out on a limb - I think that Fred can beat Hillary as badly as Reagan beat Carter.

Duncan Hunter will make a phenomenal Secretary of Defense in the Thompson Administration, and be very complementary to John Bolton over in State.


82 posted on 10/04/2007 7:59:46 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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Instead, it’s the Republican Party as a whole that has moved. He explained that he was referring to “big spending” and “ethical lapses” which have a “dampening effect on our own.”

BINGO

83 posted on 10/04/2007 8:05:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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