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Social Conservatives Will Run Third Party Candidate If GOP Nominates Abortion Supporter
Life Site ^ | October 2, 2007 | Hilary White

Posted on 10/02/2007 9:45:47 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: sofaman
Not a da*n thing...we’re going to principle ourselves into another Clinton presidency...

I've voted for a few candidates that have lost at state and national levels, and let me tell you - it's better to lose on principle than win on compromise. Every time.

Not that I would vote for Rudy whether he stood for abortion or against it anyway, just pointing that out.
21 posted on 10/02/2007 10:32:10 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: arderkrag
I've voted for a few candidates that have lost at state and national levels, and let me tell you - it's better to lose on principle than win on compromise. Every time.

That's your opinion.

It isn't mine, and I've voted a lot myself.

Fred Thompson's my choice and I'd much rather win with John McCain than lose to Hillary Clinton by voting third party.

22 posted on 10/02/2007 10:37:36 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: Coleus

How about Pat Robertson? Hes a whacko but he’s on the good side as far as abortion goes. Its all about principle...


23 posted on 10/02/2007 10:40:05 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: alicewonders

He can win because enough folks want what they can get from the elected instead of voting for what or who will best lead the Republic . If you think out of the box then it is your ( our ) fault .

Just stand on your convictions . God . Country . Family .


24 posted on 10/02/2007 10:40:50 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Chunga; sofaman

The Liberturds are coming out from under their rocks
since people are wise to L Ron Paul and his anti war, anti Israel views, the Liberturds are trying to divide Republicans so any of the anti war candidates will win.


25 posted on 10/02/2007 10:43:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Chunga

If you vote your conscience, you haven’t lost. It’s that simple. My party wins very rarely, and then only locally, but they reflect my beliefs. Should I vote for the “good ol’ boy” Republicans around here that are actually just Republicans so they can get votes? Of course not! Regardless of what few gains I may make, the losses are worse, one of them being that I have to look at myself in the mirror and say, “You helped make it this way” when those “conservatives” support liberal or authoritarian legislation. A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.


26 posted on 10/02/2007 10:46:05 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: arderkrag
admirable....

see, here's my reasoning. I will NOT allow Hillary Clinton to become POTUS without one helluva fight. The woman is dangerous, particularly considering the times in which we live.

The principle here is whether or not she becomes POTUS...Rudy Giuliani would have zero effect on Roe V wade...the Courts will decide that.

Ditto on the 2nd Amendment..particularly since he has already stipulated that he would appoint judges in the mold of Sam Alito and Chief justice Roberts...and, yes, I believe him, even though he is not my first or second choice.

The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole.

27 posted on 10/02/2007 10:47:59 PM PDT by sofaman ("Chopsticks are one of the reasons the Chinese never invented custard.")
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To: sofaman
The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole.

Oh, absolutely. I simply won't vote for him just to keep her out of office. It's a difference of mindset - I've never voted "against" anyone. I vote for people.
28 posted on 10/02/2007 10:54:48 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Republic Rocker; Rudder; sofaman; Reagan Man; LibLieSlayer; Liz
It would be nice if it were only 1 issue with Rudy.

It ain't and each of you posters no it!

He is on the wrong side of the following issues, as has been pointed out ad nauseum on this site:

1. Abortion 2. Gun Rights 3. Gay Agenda 4. Fiscal Issues (Increased the size of government dramatically and left a huge deficit when he left office)

And may I add that his so-called WOT experience is a bunch of speeches and attending funerals, which I applaud, but really doesn't amount to much. He is no stronger than most of the other candidates on this issue.

So nice try with the "one-issus voters" slander. It actually a good try on your parts of projection. It is actually Rudy supporters WHO are one-issue voters, the WOT!

Oh and one last parting comment:

The Life issue trumps all else. If your society's culture does not stand for the most basic of all morals and human rights, it is not worth defending. People who are willing to sacrifice this fight because they think they can win by doing so are sick in their souls and not worthy to be put in positions of leadership!
29 posted on 10/02/2007 10:59:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: arderkrag

A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.

Bump to that and I tip my hat off to you for taking the time for at least trying to educate the status quo cheerleading squad .


30 posted on 10/02/2007 11:00:00 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: avacado

I agree with you; conservatives are super and we need a whole lot more of them. So let’s get them out in force!


31 posted on 10/02/2007 11:01:53 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (WWII. "I built a slit trench, a mortar shell came in one side and blew me out the other")
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To: sofaman; Reagan Man; LibLieSlayer
"Ditto on the 2nd Amendment..particularly since he has already stipulated that he would appoint judges in the mold of Sam Alito and Chief justice "

This little lie has been exposed multiple times here on FreeRepublic. When Rudy said this, he included Ruth Bader Ginsburg as an example of a good consitutionlist type of judge. Either he is a complete idiot or he thinks we are complete idiots!
32 posted on 10/02/2007 11:02:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
I agree. It irks the heck out of me when many on here oppose Rudy because of any one particular issue. That is absolutely outragous--as one should always look at the 'big picture'.

It ridiculous to oppose him because of one single issue,,,,because if you take a step back,,,,take a deep breath,,,,and closely examine Rudy's positions on everything across the board,,,

THERE ARE SO DARN MANY OTHER REASONS TO STRONGLY OPPOSE HIM!!!!!!

33 posted on 10/02/2007 11:03:20 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: sofaman
"The fact remains, he is a far cry from Hillary Clinton...and the statement that I have seen so often that he is "Hillary-lite" is just so much hyperbole"

Well, not hardly! If we take his own statements like when he states that his positions on the issues are almost identical to Clinton's it kind of negates your statement.

If you can't believe Rudy about Rudy, who are we going to believe?

You?

34 posted on 10/02/2007 11:07:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: dorben
A vote for a third party is not wasted, it is what you believe.

What good does it do for anybody?

35 posted on 10/02/2007 11:14:49 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: SoConPubbie

So, put a great big banner in your front yard affirming your pro-life position and vote to win the election. Voting third party will do nothing good for the pro-life movement.


36 posted on 10/02/2007 11:18:31 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

As an educated man you must know in your mind that a 3rd party has to evolve and it will not do so without support right ?

Let’s get past the obvious and let me ask you why do you continue to vote for the status quo cycle after cycle ?


37 posted on 10/02/2007 11:26:06 PM PDT by Ben Bolt ( " The Spenders " ..)
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To: Coleus; All

Oh great! Just what we need - a party split.

Remember what the last split got us ..?? 8 YEARS OF BUBBA!!

Do we have to repeat such a stupid act ..??

Do we really want another 8 YEARS OF BUBBA ..??

Give me a break!


38 posted on 10/02/2007 11:26:11 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: dorben

I vote to win the election, not to marry the candidate. The so-called status quo candidates are those who are winning primaries. Why vote for someone who doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning? If it’s all about principle, run a big ad in the NYT professing your principles. That’ll get you more mileage than an obscure vote.


39 posted on 10/02/2007 11:35:17 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

>>run a big ad in the NYT<<

.......they raised their rates, I’ve heard.........


40 posted on 10/02/2007 11:54:19 PM PDT by yorkie
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