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Getting Rid of American Holidays in Public Schools
Men's News Daily ^ | 10/02/07 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 10/02/2007 6:49:06 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

At the end of September the school district in Oak Lawn, Illinois announced it was considering eliminating holiday celebrations like Christmas in its schools. Oak Lawn has seen increasing numbers of residents that identify with the Muslim faith who are naturally sending their children to the public schools there and school board members are afraid that Christian holidays are "offensive" to Muslim students.

This move follows a recent decision to eliminate pork products from the school menu.

Unsurprisingly, these cultural clashing decisions by the school board have caused acrimony among parents of the district. Stating the painfully obvious, Columbus Manor Principal Sandy Robertson said of the controversy, "It's difficult when you change the school's culture."

Elizabeth Zahdan, a parent of Muslim faith who took her case to the school board wanting the school to be "more inclusive" during holiday activities, however, adamantly denied she wanted to eliminate any American styled holiday observances. "I only wanted them modified to represent everyone," she told the Chicago Sun-Times. Zahdan disclaimed to reporters, "Now the kids are not being educated about other people."

Unfortunately for Mrs. Zahdan, a “modified” holiday is no longer the same holiday. It becomes something else once altered. So, whatever her motives, she was effectively advocating for their elimination.

Superintendent Tom Smyth said that the reason they were eliminating or trying to "tone down" holiday celebrations was one of wasting allotted teaching time. There isn't time enough in the day to "celebrate every holiday," Smyth claimed. "We have to think about our purpose. Are we about teaching reading, writing and math or for parties or fund-raising during the day?"

Conservatives will, of course, be offended by the elimination of standard, Christian American holidays and having them "modified" to be "more inclusive." Many are upset that these purported outsiders are forcing the local schools to make such changes for Muslims and rightfully so, to be sure.

But, this anger from conservatives is hard to square with their ideas of local control of the school systems. The usual conservative policy prescription for what ails public education in America is local -- as opposed to Federal -- control. In general, this is absolutely correct as who better to control what sort of school a community wants than the community itself, one not encumbered by meddling control from the Federal government or state officers?

This local control ideal, though, invites the very sort of situation that the Oak Lawn schools are dealing with currently. Half the kids in some schools there are of the Muslim faith at this time. So, if local control is de rigeur, then the schools will naturally begin to react to such factors as changing demographics.

This fact makes the claim of complete local control a tad embarrassing for conservatives who would be upset at a school district that might change policies to reflect the desires of the local population. After all, isn’t that the effects of the market place, the base model for most conservative thinking? With complete local control, the schools will take on the interests and desires of the local population. That is the very essence of "local control."

But, is it good to allow these sorts of forces to affect schools without careful consideration? Should we eliminate all things Christian in an American school district if the parents in that district are majority Muslim? In this climate of a wishy-washiness on American first principles infesting our country today, here is one instance where all control should not be at the smallest, local level.

School curricula must stay a state controlled issue. Though the Federal government should be entirely out of the picture, from funding to designing the curriculum, returning all schooling decisions to the smallest, local entity will result in exactly the sort of problematic de-Americanizing of our schools that we are witnessing in Oak Lawn. Whether it be overly Mexicanized, Muslim-centric, or what have you, we will assure that American influences will be replaced by the culture du jour if the locals have as much control as some conservatives by rote advocate for.

The solution to a loss of American ideals in local schools is to continue to have the school curriculum controlled by the state governments. This control, and a homogeneous statewide curriculum will offset the effect of pressures by small communities that fill with immigrant populations who might be apt to instill on our American schools the cultures and ideas from whence they, the parents, came.

What to do with the ire of parents who want their Muslim faith (or Mexican heritage in other instances) regarded in policy decisions is definitely something we will see more need to contend with in the days to come. It is a sticky question, of course. Since we have become a culture that won't back a homogeneous observance of being an American, how do we address this issue? How do we serve local communities that are made up mostly of immigrants?

As the Sun-Times reported, Oak Lawn parent Elizabeth Zahdan moaned that eliminating all holidays would stop children from "being educated about other people?"

This issue is emotionally charged, of course, but for all the wrong decisions Supt. Tom Smyth has made here, he is correct on one issue. When he said that the schools didn't have the time to celebrate every holiday on Earth to be "inclusive" of them all, he was correct. His answer to the problem is not so smart, however. Getting rid of all holidays is both the coward's way out and completely unamerican, to boot.

But, here's the thing. Our schools shouldn't be about educating our children about "other people." That they can learn in college or in life. Our schools should be teaching about OUR people. And our schools are failing miserably to do this effectively.

It is agreed that we shouldn't be celebrating every holiday under the sun in our schools. The Supt. is completely correct that we haven't the time in our busy school days to do so. In fact, we shouldn't be celebrating ANY other holidays but American holidays. American holidays reflect our national culture. Christmas and Halloween as we celebrate them are American holidays. The Holidays and traditions of other cultures deserve to remain at home, not in the halls of our schools.

By NOT indulging their desires to obviate American influences replacing them with ideas antithetical to our American first principles, we would be doing a far better service to our children than to re-draw every district to a different standard to placate foreign influences. We became a great country in the first place because of our culture, not by bending and warping every ideal to suit immigrant's wishes in every small community across this great land.

So, conservatives should realize that "local control" is not the panacea they imagine it to be in every last instance. Certainly we should look to have some aspects of our schools controlled by the local school boards, but too much local control could backfire on erstwhile conservatives. We will surely begin to find schools becoming less and less American if the locals are allowed too much direct influence.

Do we want our schools taught in Spanish as a first language? Do we want the Koran to replace textbooks in others? Do we want our children taught that America is an evil empire?

I would hope not.

To avoid that, however, we need to teach Americanism. We should be allowing kids to celebrate holidays. There is no harm in that. But they MUST be America’s holidays.

Anything else and we are no longer America and are teaching our children that there is nothing out there especially American to teach them.


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This is disgusting. Do we no longer have Americans with SPINES in our schools? Are they all feminized, nitwits?
1 posted on 10/02/2007 6:49:11 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

You betcha!


2 posted on 10/02/2007 6:50:03 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Christian holidays are “offensive” to Muslim students.

Maybe intolerant Muslims would be better off not living in America. We have freedom of religion here. Either get over it, or get out.


3 posted on 10/02/2007 6:50:55 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Maybe we just need to get rid of public schools altogether. It’s pretty clear by now that you can’t run a public school without violating someone’s Constitutional rights.


4 posted on 10/02/2007 6:53:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Mobile Vulgus

My opinion towards the “offended” Muslims in American schools:

F**k Them. If they don’t like it, they can GO HOME to Saudi Arabia, Iran, or whatever Muslim sh*thole they came from.


5 posted on 10/02/2007 6:55:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Where it will end:

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal. Easter celebrations are illegal. It is punishable by death for a non-mulsim to enter the “holy” muslim cities of Medina and Mecca.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship.

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam.

Egypt - Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship.

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution. The country has passed the “Regulation of Religious Practice” law, which stipulates a punishment of two to five years’ imprisonment and heavy fines for anyone convicted of urging a Muslim to change his religion.

Syria - The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim and specifies that Islamic jurisprudence is a principal source of legislation. Sharing your Christian faith is discouraged as “posing a threat to the relations among religious groups” and carries a penalty of up to life in prison. A Christian is not allowed to proselytize – ever. Churches who want to hold an extra service must get a government permit. Sermons are routinely monitored, as is church fundraising.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

Sudan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death.

Pakistan - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims. Christians regularly put in prison for charges of blasphemy. Islam is the state religion, and in a court of law the testimony of a Christian carries less weight than that of a Muslim. Section 295(c) of the Penal Code calls for a death sentence for anyone who defiles the name of the Prophet Muhammad and requires the testimony of four Muslims for a conviction. This fosters an environment in which Muslims can feel free to use intimidation and violence against religious minorities for personal gain. Also, if any criminal Muslim rape with any Christian female and then take plea that she has accepted Islam and marry with him. Such person is not culpable under Pakistani criminal law

Qatar - Islamic instruction is compulsory in public schools. The government regulates the publication, importation, and distribution of non-Islamic religious literature. The government continues to prohibit proselytizing of Muslims by non-Muslims.

Malaysia - Under Malaysian law, any convert to Christianity must apply to a shariah (Muslim law) court to legally renounce Islam. Many Christians prefer to remain silent converts rather than take their battle to the shariah courts, where apostasy or conversion out of Islam is punishable by whipping, fines, imprisonment and—in the most extreme application—death. In a country where Muslims account for more than half of the population, conversion from Islam is punished with a 5-year prison sentence and a $3,000 fine. A Malaysian Muslim who marries a non-Muslim and who converts the non-Muslim to Islam is rewarded with an apartment, a car, a one-time payment of $2,700, and a monthly stipend of $270.

The Maldives - In the island paradise visited by tens of thousands of tourists each year, Christianity is simply not tolerated. While local Christians – said to number around 300 out of a total population of 300,000 – do get together to worship, they do so at the risk of imprisonment or worse if discovered by the Muslim authorities. Bibles are banned, and tourists can be arrested for trying to bring them into the country.

England - Bradford, Yorkshire, UK. Pop. 300,000 - 20% Islamic. Local police required to tell community elders the location of girls who run away to escape arranged marriages. Bars and liquor stores in the Lumb Lane / Manningham Lane area of the city ‘requested’ to close on Fridays. Schools, colleges, and health clinics have to have separate areas for women, with a copy of the Koran available. Public critcism of Islam or it’s adherents, such as letters to the local paper, emails to friends, speeches etc, can and has led to criminal charges ‘Using words intentionally and wilfully to cause fear, hate, or distress. Christmas decorations not to be put up, as this may make the Moslems feel ‘culturally overshadowed’. Shops ‘requested’ not to display easter eggs for the same reason. The term ‘requested’ means not legally enforceable but local police warn that they cannot intervene if your premises get ‘damaged’ somehow. Local councillors and MPs have encouraged all this for the past 15 years. Bradford Northwest MP Ann Cryer regularly appears with long sleeves and her head covered. She once stated that women in Islam are properly liberated and that Islam is an example to us all.


6 posted on 10/02/2007 6:55:58 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
The faith of Islam is not tolerant of other faiths. That is the important factor here.

This is the tactic they will use to promote Islam. By continually being 'offended' and demanding accomodation without tolerance of our national culture or other religions and beliefs of the nation.

7 posted on 10/02/2007 6:56:21 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Richardson/Paul '08 - Sometimes this stuff just writes itself.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
It's one thing to be inclusive ... but more and more the effort to be inclusive is looking more and more like the exclusion of all things Christian.

The Islamification of America continues.

8 posted on 10/02/2007 6:57:58 AM PDT by al_c
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To: Mobile Vulgus
....who’s forcing Muslim kids to eat pork?
....the opposite has and will continue to take place with every school district unless people take a stand. More and more “choices” which amount to freedoms keep disappearing.
Spineless politicians keep giving away your freedom in order to NOT ADDRESS the obvious.
Political correctness at it worst...your freedom for their feelings
9 posted on 10/02/2007 6:58:23 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Christmas is not only a religious holiday, but also a National one. They cannot eliminate it.
10 posted on 10/02/2007 6:59:04 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Mobile Vulgus

As one who tried to warn parents back in the 80’s about the Liberal brainwashing and mind-bending and propaganda in the public schools, I can assure you that the NEA is trying to indoctrinate future generations into good little Liberals. Check out these two items:

A NATION AT RISK
http://www.ed.gov/pubs/NatAtRisk/risk.html

The Childrens’ Story by James Clavell
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/llefler/clavell.htm

Not only are they eliminating holidays, they’re digging into your personal lives via your children as well as indoctrinating them an brainwashing them. If anyone doubts that, just talk to your kids.


11 posted on 10/02/2007 7:00:30 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Christmas is not only a religious holiday, but also a National one. They cannot eliminate it. ..

Hillaryville...wait

12 posted on 10/02/2007 7:01:28 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

So if we go ahead and celebrate those traditional holidays, what are they going to do? Cut off our heads? Oh, wait.....that is what they usually do when they don’t like what we do. Piss on them. They can freakin get over it. Why do we always have to forfeit our rights when it comes to these bastards? They can freely exercise their so-called religion but we have to stop anything that might offend them??? That offends me. We have to say enough is enough.

Thank you liberals of this country for engendering this cave in mentality. We don’t want to hurt them...we must be tolerant. That is a crock of crap. There IS a time to be intolerant. Intolerant of their hate toward us. Intolerant of their hate toward Israel and toward freedom.


13 posted on 10/02/2007 7:02:28 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Why not eliminate public schools. That would end lots of problems and throw a lot of education union scum onto the streets were they belong.


14 posted on 10/02/2007 7:02:37 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
We used to see ourselves as a melting pot that could absorb flavorful bits from around the world. Then we started using the metaphor of a Salad Bowl in which pieces could mix without being absorbed or changed.

Well, all the lettuce and carrots and croutons are being pushed out of my salad bowl to make room for hummus. I hate hummus.

15 posted on 10/02/2007 7:03:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

We’ve been discussing the “feminization” of this society at my office! My answer as an Anglo Christian “American” is simple. Give me what I want, (a refund of the taxes paid to support this gov’t) and I’ll go away! The Blacks want reparations? Fine, buy me out and “give” my property to them and I’ll retire to Costa Rica never to be heard from again.


16 posted on 10/02/2007 7:03:52 AM PDT by glide625 (Give me what I want and I'll go away!)
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To: Brilliant

Yea, I am offended that in muslin countries Christians are beheaded.
When will the last straw happen?


17 posted on 10/02/2007 7:04:38 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

What irritates me to no end is what my local school district, in a conservative county, is doing. It seems that students have a day off for each and every National Holiday....every one except Columbus Day. To add insult to injury, the district regularly schedules two in-service days for either the Thursday and Friday befoe or after the holiday. Coming from an Italian background, this is doubly offensive.

Just imagine if they held classes on that holiest of holy days, Martin Luther King’s birthday.... It would be national news and there would be nationwide vigils a la the Jena 6.


18 posted on 10/02/2007 7:04:47 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Brilliant

They do not come here to be Americans.

They are here to spread their culture and

                 RIGHTS!


19 posted on 10/02/2007 7:07:04 AM PDT by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: shankbear

I have been wondering when the feminists, gays and wooly-headed liberals are going to wake up and figure out that shaira law and rigid Islamist principles really aren’t conducive to their ways of thinking and that their lifestyles might have to change quite a bit if they are implemented.


20 posted on 10/02/2007 7:08:13 AM PDT by laconic (ence)
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