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Congressman Rudy Giuliani: Pro-Life? (LOL!)
CBN ^ | 10/2/2007 | David Brody

Posted on 10/01/2007 11:57:11 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky

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To: Liz
Somebody oughta put the nitwits out of their misery----it ain't working.

One things for certain. His post has proved there is such a thing as "schmo life"! LOL

21 posted on 10/02/2007 5:16:24 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy
One things for certain. Post #12 proves there is such a thing as "schmo life"...........LOL

ROTFLOL-----OMG that's funny----thinking of Rooty and his Rooters as a bunch of schmoos. LOL.

22 posted on 10/02/2007 5:27:07 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz; indylindy; calcowgirl; 007girl; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Rudy is the biggest political whore since the Democrats.


23 posted on 10/02/2007 5:34:31 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH
Come on Jimmh, rooty leaves the back door open while preening in front of the TV claiming he's tough on security.

That line only works on complete morons and jooty - which one are you?

24 posted on 10/02/2007 5:46:11 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: TommyDale; indylindy; calcowgirl; 007girl; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; stephenjohnbanker

In the squalid world of Rooty and the Wrecking Crew, a putative Cong Rooty is (gag) pro-life.

So using their idiotic fractured logic, that must mean serial husband, adulterer, and wife-dumper Mayor Rooty is a shoo-in for “Family Man Of the Year.”


25 posted on 10/02/2007 6:10:58 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
"...serial husband, adulterer, and wife-dumper Mayor Rooty is a shoo-in for “Family Man Of the Year.”"

Quantity, rather than quality?

26 posted on 10/02/2007 6:13:45 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Liz
If Rooty is pro life I'm the King of Siam, do heart transplants as a hobby, and have solved problem of The Grand Unified Theory in Physics (the holy grail).

In English - Pete Sessions is smoking crack and this article is Mierda de Bull.

BTW, take a look at #12. We need the Bug Zapper again.

27 posted on 10/02/2007 6:14:38 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Liz

Right up there with billy jeff


28 posted on 10/02/2007 6:16:06 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guns up Red Raiders!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Rudy's push to save America...


29 posted on 10/02/2007 6:18:11 AM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH; Liz; TommyDale; Jim Robinson
****Pro life schmo life..who cares?***

You're on the wrong website son.
Go peddle your liberal tripe somewhere else.

Btw, I see Ozone and Viking Kittens in your immediate future 'jimmy'.

30 posted on 10/02/2007 6:24:00 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Condor51; indylindy; TommyDale; stephenjohnbanker; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; calcowgirl
If Rooty is pro life I'm the King of Siam, do heart transplants as a hobby, and have solved problem of The Grand Unified Theory in Physics.........

ROTFLOL----good one.

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Rooty, the Abortion Worshipper, seeking pro-life support is a HUGE admission of failure.

Rudy's campaign strategists stupidly told him he DID NOT need pro-lifers to make a primary showing.

Rooty and his Wrecking Crew planned to religiously cleanse the Repub Party, ditch "dumb pro-life conservatives" and dump the redneck gun nuts.

The Plan was based on the ignorant assumption that conservatives were going to roll over and play dead.

That ain't happening.

31 posted on 10/02/2007 7:03:28 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH
yes the WOT. Rootie happened to be mayor of NYC during the attack on 9/11.

that does NOT make him an expert on the WOT.

That and he would not even let me defend myself against radical islam as he prepares to take my guns away.....


32 posted on 10/02/2007 7:39:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: CometBaby
When the time comes I am going to worry about many things,including who is going to raise taxes, who is going to socialize healthcare, who is going to implement massive new entitlements, and who is going to keep America safe from terrorism.

Given Giuliani's track record, you ought to worry he'll push many of those ideas. He left New York with the second highest debt in the nation after dramatically increasing city spending his last five years in office. He supported minimum wage increase and rent control. He refuses to take a no-new-taxes pledge and says he believes in the premise of man-made global warming.

There is no reason to believe Giuliani will end any differently than Arnold Schwarzenegger has, another liberal that pretend to be for limited government.

Giuliani's record:

Global Warming

"I do believe there's global warming, yes. The big question has always been how much of it is happening because of natural climate changes and how much of it is happening because of human intervention. The overwhelming number of scientists now believe that there is significant human cause." -- Rudolph Giuliani, Feb. 12, 2007.

Taxes

---"Over the objections of a furious Mayor Giuliani and city legislators from both parties, the New York state legislature has abolished the New York City commuter tax. The action, done to apparently affect a local legislative race in suburban Rockland County, could cost New York City $360 million. NPR's Margot Adler reports."--- NPR Report

---"Let's face it: Rudy Giuliani argued for the reinstatement of the tax,..."--- NY Sun report

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989

"When I ran for Mayor both times, I was asked very, very often to do the following:

Pledge that you will never raise taxes. I refused to do that. Pledge that you will lower taxes. I refused to do that." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, October 25, 1994

Mr. Giuliani criticized Mr. Pataki’s proposal to cut taxes as “a shell game” that would hurt everyone in the state… -- New York Times, October 30, 1994

Government spending

Mr. Giuliani said the surplus from the current fiscal year, which ends on June 30, is projected to be $856 million, a record amount caused largely by higher-than-expected tax revenues from robust profits on Wall Street. He said for the first time that he wanted to use $99 million of that money to help the city adapt to the new strict Federal welfare rules by paying for child care, job training and other programs.

Source: New York Times, Clifford Levy, 5/9/97

Giuliani allowed spending to increase significantly faster than inflation during four of his last five years in office - and another big increase was in store for fiscal 2002 before the World Trade Center attack forced the city into an austerity mode.

Source: FISCALWATCH MEMO July 20, 2004

Not all that well. According to New York's Independent Budget Office, total budgeted expenditures grew from $31.8 billion in 1995 (Rudy's first budget year) to $44.6 billion in 2003, an increase of 40.3%. By comparison, the inflation rate from January 1995 to January 2003 was 20.89% according to this inflation rate calculator. Thus, New York City's spending under Rudy grew at a rate twice that of inflation.

Perhaps the biggest difference is on fiscal issues. Giuliani, who lost interest in curtailing the growth of city government in his latter years, left behind a fiscal catastrophe—a $6.4 billion deficit proportionately bigger than the hole that caused the 1975 fiscal shortfall. --- Jacob Weisberg, Slate magazine 2/21/07

Mr. Clinton is enthusiastic, and in August 1997 uses his tool for the first time to strike down a special-interest provision tucked in a bill. That provision gives New York hospitals a unique right to bilk extra Medicaid money, and the veto is expected to save federal taxpayers at least $200 million. Quicker than a Big Apple pol can say "pork," New York officials sue, challenging the line item veto's constitutionality. That suit, Clinton v. City of New York, goes all the way to the Supremes, which in 1998 put the kibosh on veto authority. The kicker? The guy who brought the suit and won--or, rather, the guy who helped stall one of the more powerful tools for reining in government spending--was none other than former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Source: Kimberly Strassel, Wall Street Journal, 4/14/07

School Choice

We’re going to see increased calls for privatization and for vouchers for private and parochial school education. Alternatives which in my view will weaken if not create the collapse of the New York City public school system…. I believe the voucher system in New York City would be very, very troublesome. Our system is so large that making that kind of transition would pose tremendous difficulties. Not to mention the constitutional and legal difficulties that would be entailed in providing tax relief and tax dollars for religious education.

Rudy Giuliani

Speech to Wharton Club,

New York Times, August 15, 1995

Giuliani himself was on record as repeatedly opposing a voucher system. As a candidate in 1993, he had told United Federation of Teachers’ President Sandra Feldman that he believed vouchers were “unconstitutional.”

In May 1995, he told a UFT conference that “vouchers would bleed the public schools of needed funds.”

In a speech to the Wharton Club in August 1995, the mayor declared, “Vouchers would weaken, if not create the collapse of the New York City public-school system.”

But by January 1999, Giuliani, facing term limits, was seriously thinking about running for the Senate in 2000. His advisers and pollsters were telling him that if he switched his position on vouchers, it would help him with Catholic voters upstate, and the national Republican Party.

So he slipped a favorable reference to a voucher plan into his state of the city address that month.

According to Wayne Barrett’s definitive Giuliani biography, Rudy!, following this voucher’s reference, the mayor told an alarmed Crew, “Don’t worry about it. It’s just a political thing, a campaign thing. I’m not going to do anything. Don’t take it seriously.”

The Full Rudy, pp. 52-53

"He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

Minimum Wage

"I favor increasing the minimum wage." -- Rudolph Giuliani, 2/6/00, CNN Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer.

Price Controls

Giuliani to Lobby to Save Rent Control (May 24, 1997)

The Tenant/AP ^ | May 24, 1997 | staff

NEW YORK -- Mayor Rudolph Giuliani says he will go back to Albany next week to push to keep rent controls on more than 1 million apartments, and to urge Republican leaders to come around to his position.

``I believe that we should continue rent stabilization and rent control,'' the mayor said. ``I will continue to oppose'' their elimination.

33 posted on 10/02/2007 8:55:46 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH
Rudy has already stated he will appoint constructionists to the USSC so relax.

Given that Giuliani appointed liberal judges by an 8-1 margin in New York and has tried to redefine what a strict constructionalist is by stating one could vote to uphold Roe, there is absolutely no reason to believe, especially since his election would cause a shrinking minority in the Senate, that he will appoint anything but David Souter-type of justices.

It's impossible for conservatism to succeed when conservatives are voting for liberals.

34 posted on 10/02/2007 8:59:48 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH
Remember we had 12 continuous years of pro life administrations {1980-92} and did abortion on demand go away? NO!

Gee, ya think that was because a RINO like Bush 41 helped put David Souter on the Supreme Court? Or because Democrats controlled congress and Reagan had to settle for Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy>

Well, Rudy is a bigger RINO than Bush 41 and a Giuliani Presidency will result in Republicans being a crippled minority in that Senate that will allow the Democrats to effectively choose who sits on SCOTUS.

35 posted on 10/02/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: TommyDale

“Rudy is the biggest political whore since the Democrats”

Nuff said.


36 posted on 10/02/2007 10:12:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: JIMMYSOAPDISH

All the GOP candidates take this issue seriously except for Ron Paul. We don’t need Rudy to lead that fight. We actually need Rudy to take a hike and all his social issues with him.


37 posted on 10/02/2007 5:09:06 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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