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Fred Thompson: First Lobbyist for President
DickMorris.com ^
| 09/10/07
| Dick Morris
Posted on 10/01/2007 7:15:51 PM PDT by FreepersareproAmerica
Dick Morris' inside info:
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/?p=150
TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; dickmorris; elections; fred; fredthompson; toesucker; zot
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To: FreepersareproAmerica
OH, and BTW, Dick Morris has no INSIDE information. It’s mostly just his spin and wordings.
To: mnehrling
Don’t dare insinuate that I am somehow nescient and am spreading myths because it isn’t what you want to believe.
I would be glad if both of them were proven incorrect but you and I both know very well they haven’t been and that the opposite is true. You might rationalize or spin that he lobbied “a little bit” but one can’t “lobby a little bit” any more than one can be a little bit pregnant.
The truth is he did lobby for both of them and whatever hours he logged or didn’t log or if only one phone call was involved does not negate the fact that he did lobby for both of them. I even believed him when he said he didn’t lobby for the family planning group, but not only did he lobby for them ,he lied to us about it.
Our country is in desperate need of conservatives like you who have strayed into the camps of the those who would have us believe they are of us, for us, and, like us. I hope you find your way back.
regards,
SW
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posted on
10/01/2007 7:55:57 PM PDT
by
WildcatClan
(Duncan Hunter '08 -)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
IB4TZ
I think you are out of here.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:00:11 PM PDT
by
Pistolshot
(Richardson/Paul '08 - Sometimes this stuff just writes itself.)
To: WildcatClan; Politicalmom
Don’t dare insinuate that I am somehow nescient and am spreading myths because it isn’t what you want to believe. I didn't insinuate anything, and yes, both have been proven incorrect. The billing records for the 'abortion' group was posted here, and guess what, Thompson sat in on a few conference calls. Other members of the firm also confirmed that Thompson was only brought in to define specific legal points, not to lobby.
As for the Haiti issue, Thompson was hired to look into specific trade laws after the democratically elected government was overthrown in a military coup. He was brought in one day after the coup and long before Aristide's crimes were known. That, of course is a non sequitur as Thompson was brought in to discuss withholding trade from those who overthrew the government in a coup until a democratically elected government was brought back in.
Politicalmom, ping.. I know these have been gone over in great detail time and time again, do you have a link for some of this evidence so we don't keep going in circles over stuff disproven months ago?
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:05:15 PM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul earmarked $13million to the NAU highway after he said he was against it.)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
I don't think Americans would want to vote for a lobbyist in a general election. I don't think anybody with any sense reads and/or believes anyone made famous for sucking whores toes. Does something to one creditability!
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:06:47 PM PDT
by
org.whodat
(What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
To: Spktyr; mnehrling
Well, you certainly got me there! I had no idea Reagan lobbied for GE. I knew he was president of the screen actor’s guild, and could have represented them in Washington. But to me that is not the same as being hired by an unrelated company to lobby the government for them.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:12:46 PM PDT
by
Paperdoll
( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
To: Paperdoll
You Hunters should really consider joining the Frederation , we need your help to stop Rudy, and win the nomination , so we can beat Hillary . We can’t do it if we are divided .
Please join us !
The Thompson Revolution is here , you in ?
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:15:59 PM PDT
by
Neu Pragmatist
(Unite against Rudy ! - Vote Thompson ! - It's the only way to beat Hillary !)
To: Paperdoll
At the time, GE was closely tied with the film industry. I believe it was officially GE he was working for when he was lobbying for and later testifying on the Taft-Hartley Act.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:18:10 PM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul earmarked $13million to the NAU highway after he said he was against it.)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
Let me help you with your understanding of that word:
Lobbyist
Lobbying is a concerted effort designed to achieve some result, typically from government authorities and elected officials. It can consist of the outreach of legislative members, public actions (e.g. mass demonstrations, blog postings, letters to your representative, and even editorials), or combinations of both public and private actions (e.g. encouraging constituents to contact their legislative representatives, donating monies and/or efforts).
As a professional occupation it is also known as "government affairs" or "public affairs". Practitioners may work in specialist organizations or as part of government relations or as public relations consultancies.
In other words, you are a lobbyist, I am a lobbyist, as well as paid lobbyists. So, THIS 35 years of voting experience American would, very much, VOTE for a lobbyist.
Lobbying is protected under the 1st Amendment, the right to free speech.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I thank God that lobbying is legal and honorable.
Prosperity. Unity. Security
Fred Thompson'08
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:19:18 PM PDT
by
papasmurf
(I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
To: mnehrling; ellery
I’d have to look some up.
I do know it was a single, unpaid phone call in the Aristide case.
Ping to super-sleuth Ellery for more information.
Also, Hunter voted in support of Aristide’s government, I do believe.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:19:31 PM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
this article was past the stale date the day it was released.....
To: mnehrling
The billing records from Arent Fox show that Mr. Thompson, who charged about $250 an hour, spoke 22 times with Judith DeSarno, who was then president of the family planning group. In addition, he lobbied administration officials for a total of 3.3 hours, the records show, although they do not specify which officials he met with or what was said. The billing records, along with meeting minutes from the association, show that Arent Fox was hired to help overturn the ban.
His involvement was token but not negligible. He did in fact lobby for them. He doesn’t strike me as being a poor man and I believe he had the resources to walk out on principle if he felt doing this went against his core beliefs. The lady who made the initial accusations, spoke with him 22 times and I just don’t believe he doesn’t recall that, unless Nixon was right about him.
Instead of being so arrogant and flippant why did he not just say, “yes, I did lobbied for them, although minimally”?
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:21:27 PM PDT
by
WildcatClan
(Duncan Hunter '08 -)
To: mnehrling
You’re right. GE owns NBC and NBC Univeral, and it’s subsidiaries, like PAX TV, Telemundo, Bravo, and the USA Network, and Sci Fi...just to name a few.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:23:59 PM PDT
by
papasmurf
(I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:24:30 PM PDT
by
Jotmo
(I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
To: WildcatClan
..you are doing the same thing the NYT did, translating discussions as lobbying.
Here are the billing records. You’ll notice that there is no ‘lobbying’ line items listed. They support what Arent Fox said, this was for ‘Legal Services’ not Lobbying.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/THOMPSON_DOCS/thompson_records.pdf
(Note, don’t make the mistake of looking at the ‘timekeeper’ line item. If Thompson directly worked, it is listed in the ‘Professional Services’ column- the ‘timekeeper’ line item, according to Arent Fox was for whos office BU this came from, Thompson or any of his staffers could have been doing research, not a direct indicator of who was actually attending or did any work/research.)
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:36:38 PM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul earmarked $13million to the NAU highway after he said he was against it.)
To: FreepersareproAmerica
I don't think Americans would want to vote for a lobbyist in a general election.Why not? At least he's been working in the private sector. I'll take a conservative lobbyist over a socialist ANY time.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:40:57 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: mnehrling; Paperdoll
"At the time, GE was closely tied with the film industry. I believe it was officially GE he was working for when he was lobbying for and later testifying on the Taft-Hartley Act"
That would be hard to do since Reagan testified in 1947 in front of HUAC and didn't host GE Theater until 1954.
Reagan never lobbied Congress for GE. He was GE's spokesman and toured plants and promoted GE products.
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:41:31 PM PDT
by
jonathanmo
(No tag available at this time.)
To: Neu Pragmatist; Paperdoll
"This cartoon about the "disunited state" of the colonies helped Franklin show how important it was for the colonies to be united. There was a superstition that a snake which had been cut into pieces would come back to life if the pieces were put together before sunset."
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:41:40 PM PDT
by
Rick_Michael
(The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
To: mnehrling; Spktyr
Reagan was a lobbyist for the tobacco industry, GE, and the SAG.*snort* Kinda blows THAT argument against Fred out of the water, don't it?
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:42:31 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: jonathanmo
That’s what I get for trying to go by memory, I thought he was already working for GE when he was nominated for his first SAG presidency in 47 (he was an alternate in 41).
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posted on
10/01/2007 8:46:47 PM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul earmarked $13million to the NAU highway after he said he was against it.)
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