Posted on 10/01/2007 4:32:28 AM PDT by Man50D
"The NAFTA Superhighway stops here, at the border with Oklahoma," Randy Brogdon, a Republican state senator who has championed the fight to keep the Trans-Texas Corridor out of Oklahoma, told a packed 300-person audience at the first public meeting of OK-SAFE in Tulsa on Saturday.
Oklahomans for Sovereignty and Free Enterprise, Inc. is a non-profit, Oklahoma corporation set up to oppose the NAFTA Superhighway and the North American Union, as threats to the sovereignty of the United States.
Brogdon objected to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America www.spp.gov, arguing that President Bush had entered the agreement after secret discussions with Mexico's then-president Vicente Fox and Canada's then-prime minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, on March 23, 2005.
"President Bush has proven that he is more than willing to over-step his executive authority when it came to trade policy," Brogdon told the group.
"Ariticle 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution says, 'Congress shall have the Power to Regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,' not the president," Brogdon pointed out. "Yet President Bush has entered into an agreement with Mexico and Canada called SPP that seeks to eliminate our trade and security borders and he has failed to get the explicit approval of Congress
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Gutierrez stresses the Kansas City customs port would process only U.S. exports headed out of this country, not imports or immigrants coming in. This hasn't kept media outlets such as CNN and Human Events Online from suggesting that goods from the Far East would move through Mexican ports and then on to Kansas City for their U.S. customs inspections.
Retard --- Is this your "proof"? What this Gutierrez has to say? This lying sack of crap was promoting amnesty this year. Why should I believe your friend Gutierrez?
I do believe this Gutierrez is the Cuban born Gutierrez who is our Secretary of Commerce unless you can "prove" otherwise
Bozo, this is from your source that you thought proved that imports into the US would be inspected for the first time in KC. Maybe you should read the stuff before you link to it?
Idiot chile-— Is this your “proof”? What our Hispanic Commerce Secretary has to say about a situation that can easily be modified and changed?
Jerome Corsi says one thing and Gutierrez says another about an event out in the future where not much is out in the open
Which was the point orginally. But I see the finer points are lost on this bunch.
Todd is pretty much a troll. Todd and his dopey crowd still don’t understand why the US dollar is sinking and they don’t care. They like a f***** dollar
Why did you provide the source with his comment? I thought you were trying to prove the opposite? I'm still waiting. LOL!
Your point was imports never inspected before they hit KC. Still no proof, huh?
Moron -— logic impaired
Retard— Where is your proof?
I’m not trying to prove anything. Idiot.
Prove it idiot chile or f off. Useless troll
Prove what? That you guys made a claim that you’ve yet to prove? That’s obvious.
Yeah, I’m with Todd on this one. Take your smugness and stick it . . . or save it, eventually the business cycle will catch up to you.
Are you trying to prove something, here? I thought we were talking about stuff not being inspected until it gets to KC? Did the argument shift again?
Your original point was a loser. Next.
No.
I thought we were talking about stuff not being inspected until it gets to KC?
That's the claim the two cretins made. They just can't prove it.
Did the argument shift again?
I think Dennis had too much to drink and forgot what he was trying to prove.
In any case, see if you can pin them down to one or two specific arguments over the next day or so. This thread has life (as opposed to the others).
So make your counter claim and prove it, idiot chile. That’s in the debating handbook. “Prove” what Carlos Gutierrez said about the Kansas City customs facility and that that is how it will be. It’s all off in the future so prove the future
I don't have a claim. You guys made a claim, I'm just waiting (and waiting and waiting) for you to prove it. Good luck.
Thats in the debating handbook.
LOL!
Prove what Carlos Gutierrez said about the Kansas City customs facility and that that is how it will be.
That was your source. You prove it.
O.K., this thread is absolutely ridiculous. I hope this will be the last post and will settle it once and for all:
We seem to have a couple of "globalists" who see nothing wrong with turning over our country's sovreignty to an international, non-accountable, un-elected, multi-national, agency that will institute many far-reaching changes in the way Americans live and work forever.
I don't understand why it doesn't bother them but nevertheless, they seem to be hung up on one teensy point that may not be explicity spelled out in the material available.
Whether the planners actually come out and say it in clear English or not should not be the substance of this thread, but rather our losing our sovreignty.
Since there is planned a "port of entry" in KCMO, and that port of entry is well within the (soon to be former) boundaries of the U.S., it is reasonable to surmise that is where the inspections will occur.
Since there are many other more significant changes coming, and the road is but one small part of it, let's just wait for it all to happen, and then you will see. (maybe)
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