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Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | September 30, 2007

Posted on 09/30/2007 5:24:00 PM PDT by Stoat

Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks

Last updated at 01:05am on 1st October 2007

Comments Comments Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: 'Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand.'

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

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hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle and been beaten

 

Reports from other exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply ' disappeared' as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.

In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay - centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week - were virtually deserted yesterday.

A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.

Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. 'The Burma revolt is over,' she added.

'The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.

'Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear.'

Mrs Agerlid said Rangoon is heavily guarded by soldiers.

'There are extremely high numbers of soldiers in Rangoon's streets,' she added. 'Anyone can see it is absolutely impossible for any demonstration to gather, or for anyone to do anything.

'People are scared and the general assessment is that the fight is over. We were informed from one of the largest embassies in Burma that 40 monks in the Insein prison were beaten to death today and subsequently burned.'

The diplomat also said that three monasteries were raided yesterday afternoon and are now totally abandoned. At his border hideout last night, 42-year-old Mr Win said he hopes to cross into Thailand and seek asylum at the Norwegian Embassy.

The 42-year-old chief of military intelligence in Rangoon's northern region, added: 'I decided to desert when I was ordered to raid two monasteries and force several hundred monks onto trucks.

'They were to be killed and their bodies dumped deep inside the jungle. I refused to participate in this.'

With his teenage son, he made his escape from Rangoon, leaving behind his wife and two other sons.

He had no fears for their safety because his brother is a powerful general who, he believes, will defend the family.

Mr Win's defection will raise a faint hope among tens of thousands of Burmese who have fled to villages along the Thai border.

They will feel others in the army may follow him and turn on their ageing leaders, Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye.

UN special envoy Ibrahim Gambari is still trying to set up a meeting with General Shwe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4them2solve; buddhists; burma; genocide; mandalay; massacre; monks; notourproblem; rangoon; thailand
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To: GOP Poet

this may be helpful in understanding the mindset of the
military in Burma/Myanmar:
http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/starry-eyed-generals-of-burma.html


81 posted on 09/30/2007 8:02:49 PM PDT by robfromakron
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Here ya go

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/ap_on_bi_ge/myanmar_fueling_the_junta

There are currently economic sanctions in place that prevent U.S. and E.U. companies from establishing new investments, but it doesn’t prevent the existing companies from continuing operations.

The U.N. will have some “stern words” or something equally useless, I’m sure.


82 posted on 09/30/2007 8:02:52 PM PDT by underground
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To: TigersEye
These thugs don't fear anything and it seems they have little reason to.

This is a consequence of not having a united voice. It is sad that in these days of instant world communication, a good number of leaders in the world's democracies have decided to ignore the old rule of "politics stopping at the water's edge"

There is blood on the hands of all of them.

83 posted on 09/30/2007 8:07:24 PM PDT by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: underground

here’s a more complete “dirty list”

http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/dirty_list/dirty_list_details.html


84 posted on 09/30/2007 8:34:02 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: All
Frontpicture
These Burmese were rounded up by immigration and border patrol police and soldiers in Chiang Rai’s Mae Sai district yesterday after crossing illegally into Thailand, and sent back to Burma. Security has been tightened along the border with Burma amidfears of an influx of people fleeing suppression of the protests in Rangoon and Mandalay. — SUBIN KHUENKAEW

Source:

Bangkok Post Main Entrance Page

85 posted on 09/30/2007 9:32:51 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

“...all that is left is Thailand, which seems to have held off chinese style communism, but is being threatened with islam while otherwise surrounded with the former.”

There is a Thai statement which sums up their political philosophy in a betel nut shell.

Mai bien lai.

Translation: the reeds bend with the wind. Whichever country is the stronger influence, give them some recognition, but don’t break.

The Thais have survived with this philosophy for a long time; hopefully they will continue to thrive. Once you get away from Bangkok, it’s a great country.


86 posted on 09/30/2007 10:31:05 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Re “Dont worry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the DC morons (Osama, Kucinich, Waters, Edwards, Dean, Biden, Kerry), will fix this too.

Yes, they are already setting up a commission to investigate setting up a newer commission to investigate this article as to whether it is true or not. They they will send a letter to the UN to set up another commission to check into the accuracy of their commissions.

Meanwhile freedom dies, while Democrats cry (crocodile tears).


87 posted on 09/30/2007 10:33:41 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: Stoat

I’ll be holding my breath waiting for the the Pinkos to demonstrate!


88 posted on 09/30/2007 10:38:29 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: pillut48
The world stood by and did nothing but TALK

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

89 posted on 09/30/2007 10:42:08 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: EternalVigilance
"God will repay the tyrants."

And how will God repay those who stood by and allowed this to happen?

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

90 posted on 09/30/2007 10:44:57 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: mark3681
"Just don’t send anything that can be considered hate speech, or you’ll have some jack-boots kicking in YOUR door!"

I think I'm going to vomit.

Yes please don't say anything that can possibly be considered hateful or bigoted of Hitler.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

91 posted on 09/30/2007 10:48:28 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: expatguy

Good question. Not too kindly, I would guess. Sins of omission are still sins.


92 posted on 09/30/2007 10:49:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: TBall

“I know FR will give it many, many bumps.”

I hope so, cause the regime there has done a decent job of cutting off standard communications.


93 posted on 09/30/2007 10:54:03 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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Global firms provide lifeline to Myanmar’s junta

http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/070930033631.v3843she.html

I recognize a few of those names...


94 posted on 09/30/2007 11:01:05 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: dragnet2

“Or how about our good trading partner, China?”

The soldiers who murdered the monks are 100% backed by china.

We are unlikely to do anything about this....it would have detrimental effects on Walmart.

If there is no oil involved in the equation...the US doesn’t give a damn about democracy.


95 posted on 10/01/2007 4:32:19 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: GOP Poet

What sort of dictatorship is this stemming from? I can’t imagine monks being killed and in large numbers and without assistance to help from some group inside.

China.

Most favored nation trading status partner.


96 posted on 10/01/2007 4:34:02 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Stoat

FOX News was too busy reporting on Pamela Anderson’s engagement to report this.


97 posted on 10/01/2007 4:39:21 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: airborne
FOX News was too busy reporting on Pamela Anderson’s engagement to report this.

In the world of Faux News, Lindsey Lohan taking a drink is much more important than what is going on in Burma or Darfur. I still think it's funny or sad (or both) that some people think Fox is "conservative".
98 posted on 10/01/2007 6:21:36 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Strategerist

My understanding is that the Buddhists believe in karma - the influence of past lives. You behave well now in order to either insure a good rebirth or to become enlightened. Becoming enlightened is a very difficult task probably involving decades of meditation practice. There’s no way that those involved in the government crack down are good observant Buddhists.


99 posted on 10/01/2007 7:03:49 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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To: Hexenhammer

“I’m surprised by the silence from Hollywood about this.

Well, maybe not.”

For what this is worth, Martin Sheen was on “Prairie Home Companion” this past weekend. One of the things he did on the show was to sing a hymn in order to protest what was happening in Burma.


100 posted on 10/01/2007 7:08:37 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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