Posted on 09/30/2007 4:14:53 AM PDT by Man50D
WASHINGTON – Some of the top leaders in Christian pro-family activism – including James Dobson of Focus on the Family – met in Salt Lake City yesterday to plot a strategy if Rudy Giuliani or another supporter of legalized abortion is nominated by the Republican Party as its presidential candidate.
Not only was there a consensus among activists to withhold support for the Republican nominee, there was even discussion about supporting the entry of a new candidate to challenge the frontrunners.
It's no secret that Dobson, founder of one of the largest Christian ministries in the country, has no use for Giuliani.
In June, he said: "I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision. If given a Hobson's – Dobson's? – choice between him and Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran – or if worse comes to worst – not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life. My conscience and my moral convictions will allow me to do nothing else."
Dobson reportedly drove from his headquarters Colorado Springs to the private meeting, held between sessions of the Council for National Policy in Salt Lake City this weekend, just to weigh in with other leaders of family groups, including the Family Research Council, Bott Broadcasting, Capitol Resource Institute, Salem Communications, Eagle Forum and Concerned Women for America
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To follow what Gary Bauer said recently,
The true nightmare is Hillary taking the oath of office...
followed Hillary’s two to three Supreme Court picks...
followed by another 100+ federal judge picks by Hillary that have been stuck in the Senate
Dobson’s disgust... if acted upon... will turn into LIVING HELL.
I can do no such thing.
What does any of that have to do with Christianity?
Dobson is not alone... it is ever so close.
I will wait out the primary season, but I am already fairly certain to withdraw from the party. It represents very little of what is important to me.
Excuse me but their "why" was announced loud and clear, killing babies is something they will not stand for in a presidential candidate, so therefore they will not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, such as Rudy for example.
What I believe isn't all that powerful, is it?
Look, Dobson is trying to sway the primary vote with this. I recognize that and I hope it works. But the fact is, if it comes down to a vote for Hillary or Rudy, most of us will vote for Rudy.
Dobson, like all of us, can cast his vote based on what principles are most important to him.
I, too, am pro-life but I will vote for Giuliani over Clinton any day because I think the defining issue of our time is the WOT.
When it’s the choice two not so good candidates, I will always vote for the lesser of two evils. I’m not going to throw my vote away or stay home and let the worst candidate triumph. That’s like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
No, I can trust he will defend Rudy's best interests. I don't think he gives a rip about the Constitution. I am not sure there is a statesman in the bunch.
Too many don't see the connection- That is the root of the problem.
The same could be said of the moderate, centrist, but supposed mainstream elite that claim to be fiscal conservatives but are socially liberal, they hold the same responsibility.
Going Clinton lite under the guise of a moderate supposed mainstream candidate with a liberal congress will have the same results of a Clinton figure head. Just look at what a 'big tent' republican congress that got replaced by a pretend to be more conservative but in fact liberal congress has done to President Bush.
Oh and I do not get my 'doctrine' from Dobson or any of these other 'religious' figureheads. Deuteronomy 27:16-26 lays out what the cursings of a people will be upon a nation if thy shalt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 28: tells exactly what the voice of the LORD thy God requires to be a blessed nation.
Irony how much these words still apply to US to this day, so which candidate defines they have a clue as to where our BLESSINGS actually come from???
I was at a Republican group meeting the other night, and minority leader Boehner was there to speak. My cousin asked him about getting back to the social conservative roots. He said they have to get moderates and independents to vote, and the social conservatives will vote for the GOP because usually their candidates are socially conservative. My cousin pointed out that’s not happening as much, and he still said they have to pull the moderate and independent to vote. My cousin remarked that the social conservatives are the strong base that faithfully gets out there and works for the candidate, and a lot of them are getting frustrated about the drift from social conservative values. She said one of the candidates they won’t get behind is Guiliani. He seemed to disagree, and he proceeded to talk about how social conservatives love Guiliani (not this one) who he said will move further to the right. Basically, it didn’t feel like she got anywhere. He seemed to think social conservatives will continue to stay loyal as they appeal to the moderates and independents to pull them under the tent, but my cousin and I both disagree. There is only so much social conservatives will take before they split off and form a new conservative party or join a more conservative party like the Constitution Party.
The problem with this and all like statements is that it leads one to believe that the GOP leadership selects the candidate. It doesn't. The candidate is chosen by Republican voters at the polls. I have no idea who's going to actually be the guy, but if it is Guiliani it will be because Republican voters chose him in a primary election, not because some shadowy leadership gave him the nod.
GENERAL: I am a pragmatic republican voter
No other way....
You make a very good point. I am not sure if that can be done because that may be in conflict with his tax-free status or something. I am not sure of his particular groups status so I am not sure, just a thought.
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