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Selling National Security (China bids for portion of 3Com)
The Weekly Standard ^ | September 29, 2007 | Irwin M. Stelzer

Posted on 09/29/2007 9:47:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

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Sounds like a bad idea. We should at least delay this until the Clinton Administration approves it. [shudder]
1 posted on 09/29/2007 9:47:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: pissant

For your list, if you are the one with it . . . .


2 posted on 09/29/2007 9:53:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

“What? Me worry?” — Alfred E. Newman


3 posted on 09/29/2007 9:53:43 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: 1rudeboy

Thanks. Waiting for the WSJ to come out and cheerlead this one.


4 posted on 09/29/2007 9:55:30 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 1rudeboy
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

5 posted on 09/29/2007 9:56:29 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: pissant

Do you have a Duncan Hunter ping list? I’d really like some agitation on this issue.


6 posted on 09/29/2007 9:57:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: pissant
One can only hope that Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson reads up on his Adam Smith, no protectionist he. Smith warned that when national security is at stake, free trade takes a distant second place as a national priority. The great Scot is, as usual, as relevant to our day as he was when he wrote The Wealth of Nations 230 years ago.

I've read the Wealth of Nations twice now, and I've yet to figure out why so many pure 'free trade' advocates are unfamiliar with his work.

7 posted on 09/29/2007 9:58:09 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 1rudeboy; 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ...

I do indeed


8 posted on 09/29/2007 9:59:03 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 1rudeboy
I would be ASTOUNDED if the DoD is using IDS from 3Com.

3Com has been reselling Huwei equipment for years (specifically routers) which is a direct reverse engineer of Cisco gear.

The ONLY thing 3Com has ever had to offer is "cheap", nothing else.

I know many recent ex-military...and they tell me it's "all Cisco"...to include Firewalls, IDS, IPS.

9 posted on 09/29/2007 10:11:47 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: 1rudeboy
Bain Capital, founded by Mitt Romney. Anybody ever heard of the guy? Maybe someone will ask him about the deal?
10 posted on 09/29/2007 10:21:01 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: 1rudeboy; pissant

Bush has already sold our border security to the Slave Labor Lobby, why not 3Com?


11 posted on 09/29/2007 10:21:57 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: pissant; 1rudeboy; All

Dubai Ports World redux.

As I recall, following that debacle, Duncan Hunter, Peter King and other congresspersons were going to look into the protocol of CFIUS, to obtain more congressional oversight.

The CFIUS was the group that rushed the DPW, rubber-stamping all the way and was going to be a “done deal” with none the wiser.

It looks as though they are operating in exactly the same fashion in this instance. However, I just now found an article that updates their procedure, will post separately.

It appears congresspersons are the ones to contact in this matter.


12 posted on 09/29/2007 10:51:54 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Where were you when the world stopped turning...)
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To: La Enchiladita

I don’t see this as a DPW redux at all.


13 posted on 09/29/2007 10:56:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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"Cisco routers have competitors in China like Huawei and ZTE, but "we don't compete much", said Volpi (Cisco's senior vice president), who is also the general manager of Cisco's Routing Technology Group. Cisco has 70% of the market share in routers globally, he said. Volpi also ruled out the possibility of Cisco buying Huawei. The company is expected to manufacture 40% of its products in China in the coming years to cut costs. All Cisco's products are produced through outsourcing."

http://china-netinvestor.blogspot.com/2005/06/ciscos-china-plans.html

14 posted on 09/29/2007 10:59:52 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: La Enchiladita

Meaning that, in this case you have a foreign firm purchasing a stake in a U.S. computer firm whose products may be used in a national security capacity . . . whereas the DPW deal was a foreign firm selling its leases to operate some cranes and warehouses to another foreign firm.


15 posted on 09/29/2007 11:00:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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On closer reading of the article, I see that CFIUS is not yet involved in this Pentagon deal, and they should be. As well, it should be given congressional priority and scrutiny. It's unbelievable that the Pentagon is actually considering this. Have they been infiltrated by State?

Post-FINSA Coordination of Antitrust, CFIUS Practitioners

Once upon a time, mention of the federal agency CFIUS -- pronounced siphius -- conjured head-scratching, and possibly images of a certain Greek mythical figure eternally pushing a boulder up a hill.

In recent years, however, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) has been catapulted into the spotlight. The 32-year-old committee and the president together are statutorily authorized to review and ultimately block mergers and acquisitions between foreign entities and U.S. firms if those transactions threaten U.S. national security. And in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the once-sleepy committee has grown increasingly aggressive about scrutinizing deals with national security implications.

Now, President George W. Bush has signed into law the Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007 (FINSA),[FOOTNOTE 1] which further enhances CFIUS's powers and strengthens congressional oversight.

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Prompted by concerns about foreign acquisition of certain kinds of U.S. firms, CFIUS was established first by executive order in 1975[FOOTNOTE 2] and then codified by the Exon-Florio Amendment 13 years later.[FOOTNOTE 3] The committee is comprised of the heads of various Executive Branch agencies and offices, including (when FINSA takes effect) the departments of Homeland Security, Commerce, Defense, Energy and Labor; and is chaired by the secretary of the Treasury. The committee's purpose, as outlined by FINSA, is to safeguard national security without unnecessarily discouraging foreign investment. To accomplish this, Exon-Florio and its regulations authorize CFIUS to review and investigate, and the president to suspend, prohibit, or "seek appropriate relief" in connection with, transactions in which a foreign entity acquires control over a U.S. entity and the acquisition threatens national security.[FOOTNOTE 4]

Despite these broad powers, the CFIUS remained an obscure body for the first roughly two-and-a-half decades of its existence. And then a few high-profile transactions pulled the committee out of its shell -- in particular, when the United Arab Emirates-owned company Dubai Ports World (DPW) tried to buy six U.S. port facilities in 2006. The CFIUS opted not to investigate the deal, and the subsequent prospect of Arab ownership of U.S. port facilities sparked outrage and alarm. Members of Congress called for the deal to be blocked. "We need to have American ports in the hands of and operated by Americans," one representative insisted at the time.[FOOTNOTE 5] DPW divested its U.S. port facilities. In the meantime, however, critics of the transaction vilified CFIUS for its passive approach to the transaction.

The next year -- and in direct response to the DPW deal -- Congress passed FINSA and President Bush signed it into law on July 26, 2007.

*snip*

16 posted on 09/29/2007 11:01:12 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Where were you when the world stopped turning...)
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To: 1rudeboy; pissant

Knowing that you supported the DPW deal, I think it’s kinda funny that you’re concerned re this.

In general, it is the same, in regard to sacrificing national security at the altar of global trade.

Maybe “protectionism” is not entirely a bad idea.


17 posted on 09/29/2007 11:03:43 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Where were you when the world stopped turning...)
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Nice. I was afraid you were going to blame NAFTA.


18 posted on 09/29/2007 11:04:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Saw something this A.M. on my CADD screen. CADD went backwards.....Strange......I had to, for the first time ever type, REDO (no actually I have done REDO, but never have I seen the Program do what it did as if a loop was entered and I have no idea if this was a virus or not).......then the glitch went away.....I wonder if it will be back?

IF it comes back, does anyone think this is a virus? because I do not know......yet.....

19 posted on 09/29/2007 11:05:22 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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To: La Enchiladita

Please see my comment #15. I’m not prone to knee-jerk reactions.


20 posted on 09/29/2007 11:05:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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