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Posted on 09/29/2007 9:06:55 AM PDT by wagglebee
Pro-life organizations are trying to build support for the legal definition that an unborn child is a person to exploit a weakness that was cited by author Harry Blackmun when he wrote the creative Roe V. Wade abortion precedent in 1973.
But their work has generated a huge argument within the pro-life movement: whether it's better to chip away at the opportunities abortionists have to conduct their business or a challenge should be mounted to confront Roe's very premise that the unborn are only tissue.
WND reported earlier when several pro-life organizations launched an advertising campaign that was critical of other pro-lifers for their praise for the U.S. Supreme Court's partial birth abortion decision, which said some procedures could be restricted. Groups including Focus on the Family noted it was the first court opinion in years that actually supported abortion restrictions and said it was a moral victory, while others including the America Life League countered that the court ruling actually would not prohibit a single abortion, just a way of doing them. That argument has been raised to a new level now, with opinions from some of the top legal experts in the pro-life camp squaring off in a sort of debate at the Personhood.net website.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
The chances of Congress passing such a law, however, are less than zero.
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I agree. We live in a society that treats abusers of pit bulls worse than abusers of children.
Your cousin is an exceptional woman.
Re: this unborn personhood strategy—I’m all for it, because it’s the truth, personhood begins at conception. But it has been by far the most difficult process of all and was started more than 25 years ago.
Here’s the tough news http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839484/posts?page=18#18
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Transcripts of Congressional Debates on the Proposed Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act Posted on January 21, 2000
http://shinbone.home.att.net/congtran.1.htm
http://www.hrtl.org/partbirth.htm
“Does this mean that you would deny D&C treatment for someone who was raped? I am very much a pro-life, anti-abortion person, but I have a more philosophical view of conception. I do not accept that rape is “conception”. That may not jibe with a “personhood” concept or be acceptable to many other religious people who would push for absolutes. Sorry if that’s too mystical for others, that’s how I see it.”
I have read that a D&C is an acceptable procedure for rape BEFORE conception takes place.
Once coneption takes place, you are killing a little person, and of course, that is wrong.
Well, since that childish smear was the best answer you can give to my question about whether anyone knows of any other presidential candidate who has participated in or proposed personhood legislation other that DUNCAN HUNTER, I guess your guy hasn’t.
Go, Duncan Hunter!
Keep fighting for innocent babies and for the rights of Americans.
www.gohunter08.com
Below in quotes are Duncan Hunter’s own words:
“Duncan Hunter: Yes. You know, I’m the author of the personhood-at-conception bill which right now has over 100 co-sponsors ...that would define personhood as moment of conception, so, it would allow us to have a reversal of the effects of Roe v. Wade without a constitutional amendment.”
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=114155
I doubt the 4,000 babies who are tortured and killed each day in this country think we have come up with a “quick fix.”
The fact of the matter is:
Blackmun said he’d ignore “the well-known facts of fetal development” in order to deny personhood rights to the unborn.
They knew alot in 1973, but ignored it. We know alot more now.
Rape is a brutally traumatic experience a normal woman won’t forget.
Abortion is another brutally traumatic experience a normal woman will never forget.
The difference is:
She was not culpable for the rape,AND BEARS NO GUILT. She can live in peace after some time has passed.
Offering her an abortion for the rape out of misplaced compassion makes her a partner in the death of her innocent child.
This is a memory she would suffer with forever.
Indeed. She talks the talk and walks the walk.
No one should receive the death penalty for the crime of their
father!
Wrong!
No state, city or political subdivision has
the right to hold slaves, or establish death camps
for Jews or pre-born babies.
Well, either way. I don’t care as long as we stop the slaughter.
However, as a matter of principle, I would also like to curtail the tyranny of the courts.
“Offering her an abortion for the rape out of misplaced compassion makes her a partner in the death of her innocent child.”
FORCING her to remain pregnant to satisfy OUR religious sensibilities only further victimizes her. I hate abortion, I would strongly counsel ANY RAPE VICTIM to carry the child to term and put it up for adoption but in the end, I could no more FORCE her to do so than I could perform the odious procedure myself.
Killing an innocent child does not take away the rape.
“Killing an innocent child does not take away the rape.”
I agree, and I still could not further victimize that RAPE VICTIM by FORCING her to carry her rapists child to term. I would counsel her to. I would tell her exactly what an abortion is, heck I’d sit her down to watch Silent Scream.
But I could never bring myself to further victimize that person because of MY religious beliefs.
I never mentioned religious beliefs.
One can counsel or legislate on other grounds. Since I have friends who suffer from past abortions they cannot undo, and I know that the unborn child has as much right to his life as you or me, I have no hesitation saying abortion should be illegal in all cases except where it truly will kill the mother if she continues to carry her baby.
In that case, the baby should be carefully removed from the womb, and all efforts to save his life should be attempted.
I would say you are entitled to the same efforts to preserve your life as any other human being, the unborn included.
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