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Anchor Babies, Away
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 29 Sept 2007 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 09/29/2007 7:47:05 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

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This column was inspired by an article posted less than an hour ago, on FR. Thanks for the inspiration. The reporter and his paper have it coming, "good and hard" as H.L. Mencken used to write.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 09/29/2007 7:47:06 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

Are Guatemalans born in Mexico citizens?


2 posted on 09/29/2007 7:48:45 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

That throws a wrench in their machine.


3 posted on 09/29/2007 7:52:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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Are Guatemalans born in Mexico citizens?

According to this guide, they would be.
5 posted on 09/29/2007 7:54:21 AM PDT by ruination
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you for straightening that out.

Now, if we could only ping all journalists to read it. ;-)


6 posted on 09/29/2007 7:54:24 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Congressman Billybob

The 14th amendment is just an interpretation away from changing the law to what I think was the original intent.


7 posted on 09/29/2007 7:55:14 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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No one born in Mexico of non-Mexican parents, is a Mexican. Mexico’s anti-illegal immigration laws make the US laws (if enforced) look like pattycake. Mexico dumps their illegals back across the border asap — if they aren’t beaten or shot first. Illegals in Mexico cannot stay, cannot work, cannot go to court to get a hearing.

John / Billybob

8 posted on 09/29/2007 7:57:17 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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illegals in mexico...are just resting until they can get across the border to the US!!!


9 posted on 09/29/2007 8:01:23 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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Let me get this straight, Thompson was commenting on the law that was passed under the authority of the 14th amendment that allows for anchor babies and not commenting on the 14th amendment itself? And new legislation, also under the authority of the 14th amendment, could be passed that rescinds this law and thus bans anchor babies? And the reporter doesn’t understand this point?


10 posted on 09/29/2007 8:03:11 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Very interesting. Thanks!


11 posted on 09/29/2007 8:05:40 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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Thank you John. Did you send this to Stratton?


12 posted on 09/29/2007 8:06:27 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Excellent!


13 posted on 09/29/2007 8:06:28 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for your clarification. There have been a few articles posted here about anchor baby citizenship. The responses have always shown a variety of opinions on what looks to me to be very clear subject. I hope you’ll re-post on this topic. The need for understanding is great.
14 posted on 09/29/2007 8:07:34 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 09/29/2007 8:07:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Congressman Billybob
Well said, Sir.

I would amend it to say that any child born of a woman who is in this country illegally does not have citizenship.

Any child born of a woman who is here legally should be American.

16 posted on 09/29/2007 8:09:50 AM PDT by LibKill (Remember the Government MURDERED CHILDREN at Waco.)
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As is usual on this issue on FR, I am in the tiny minority.

You can argue it anyway you want but the text is clear.

The diplomatic exception exists because Ambassadors/Diplomats are not subject to the ‘Jurisdiction’ of the US. The classic idea of ‘diplomatic immunity’ — theoritically they can kill someone on our soil and not get prosecuted. Like everyone else — including illegal aliens.

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Is it problem? Of course it is a problem if illegal aliens are doing what they can to have an anchor baby (including dying in the desert at 8 months).

But trying to muck with the text of the Constitution isn’t the way we should be doing this — as conservatives we should treat the Constitution with the reverence it deserves and not take the liberal ‘cop-out’ of ignoring the text and just pretending it says what they want it to say.


17 posted on 09/29/2007 8:50:55 AM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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“Are Guatemalans born in Mexico citizens?”

Who cares? That’s between Guatemala and Mexico.

I would be in favor of a careful crafting of any changes to the Fourteenth Amendment, because I’m worried about mass disenfranchisement of any ethnic or religious group. Remember, the Constitution is forever, and can be applied to groups like Jews or Baptists or heterosexuals.


18 posted on 09/29/2007 9:01:51 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: LibKill
I would amend it to say that any child born of a woman who is in this country illegally does not have citizenship.

Any child born of a woman who is here legally should be American.

In the second scenario, wouldn't that make a child, that was born to a pregnant woman who came here on a visa to shop, legal. And then the woman overstays her visa still creating the "anchor" baby to gain citizenship?

19 posted on 09/29/2007 9:08:59 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: GAB-1955

“I’m worried about mass disenfranchisement of any ethnic or religious group. Remember, the Constitution is forever, and can be applied to groups like Jews or Baptists or heterosexuals”

If they were born to illegals, kick them out!


20 posted on 09/29/2007 9:09:46 AM PDT by dalereed
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