Posted on 09/27/2007 5:26:47 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #7 – Baltimore, Maryland 09/27/07 - Official Discussion Thread
All-American Presidential Forum on PBS
Morgan State University, Baltimore, Maryland
September 27, 2007, 9:00 pm-10:30 pm ET (check your local PBS listings)
Moderated by Tavis Smiley.
Candidates participating:
Journalists involved...
Q: Immigration reform path to citizenship
Paul: Would not support it. Doesn’t support amnesty. Don’t reward them. Stick to our guns about obeying of our laws. Goes after welfare.
Brownback: America is for legal immigration, not illegal immigration. Enforce at worksite. Not support new path to citizen. Work visa programs.
Tancredo: Glad to hear of newfound positions to support the border. Simply enforce the law, especially about the hiring. You do not have to round people up.
Hunter: Folks here illegally have to leave. Cites example of contractors being undercut by people not playing by the rules employing illegals. Build the border fence. Not just immigration, but because of security issues.
Keyes: Border is a matter of security, otherwise no laws will have significance. Elites have been under the thumb under corporate interests. Stop fooling around with this issue. Liberals more concerned with illegals than with black folk here for ages.
Huckabee: security issue, suitcase dirty bomb example. Another version of slave labor. Penalty on the people most benefiting (the employers).
The decision to retry that youth came before Jesse and Al came to town.
Here goes Juan linking blacks and latinos. Also mentions the Jena 6 and equal justice. When did you stop beating your wife?
Brownback is floundering badly now
“I find the idea of this debate offensive.”
Couldn’t agree more.
No, the Dems like sticking to us by applauding the “crazy uncle in the attic.”
9:46
Alan Keyes: some (black leaders?) are more concerned with illegals than the black community illegal aliens destroy
Tom Tancredo is doing awesome, Alan Keyes is too. Duncan is disappointing. I’m very proud of the candidates (except Paul, he’s nuts).
I see them trying to turn this into a panderfest. I don’t like it.
I respect the fact that a handful of Republican candidates are willing to debate on this dais.No they’re not going to change the D’craps hold on black Americans but they CAN score points. There ARE black Americans who are listening and these guys are getting a message out !!!
Duncan refused to pander to the Jena 6 question.
He says there must be accountability.
Tavis says you didnt answer the question!
1. You accept the premise that there is a Republican Party Establishment.
2. You analyze this gated-community RNC Establishment and you see that often they are an anathema to American Bedrock Conservative ("ABC") ideals: immigration/illegals/border fence/amnesty, NAFTA/NAU, no-win nation-building wars, entitlements, political correctness, soft on gays, milquetoast on abortion/euthansia, pro-big government. (In short, RINOs with no fundamental difference from centrist-lib Democrats.
3. You see just whom they accept as candidates and who they are afraid of or wish to stop.
4. You avoid like the plague any candidates who swim with this RNC Establishment Crowd, and embrace those who are either hated or ignored by such a group.
This logic has me down to about three or four Presidential candidates at best.
Necessarily, they are all not "the front runners", and ignored by the MSM as footnotes, but in essence and in all self-honesty, for me, they are all what is really BEST FOR AMERICA and MOST IN LINE WITH MY POLITICAL THINKING AND HOPE FOR THIS ENDANGERED REPUBLIC.
At that is who gets my vote and support in 2008.
How many people in jail watch cable or have viewed porn in the past year?
It isn’t all about using drugs or alcohol.
They are not scoring any points with the black community. They will continue to vote in lockstep with the Dems. The Reps on stage are just confirming their perception of Reps. They are the law and order types except for Paul who wants to legalize drugs.
Paul want to pull out of all wars including the drug war
Ron Paul should own up that we’ve spent TRILLIONS on the war on poverty since the 1960s with even worse results than the WOD.
Question: how would you reform the criminal justice (so as to prevent the disproportionate inprisonment of people of color)
Alan Keyes: Justice of the Peace argument. Very good. He’s rocking. (moral values, fighting against race baiting, community orientated).
Huck is doing well too. Well educated on the issues. “lock up the people we’re afraid of” not the people we’re mad at. (drug courts, etc.).
RPaul: good stats/war on drugs. Prohibition doesn’t work. (so true).
Juan Williams Q: name one reform you would endorse to ensure young black and latina folk will have equal justice in America’s courts. (Jena 6 was also cited)
Brownback: I’m the only one up here who’s spent a couple of nights in jail; I’ve stayed in homeless shelters, to get a feel for it.
Tancredo: Far too many criminal statutes at the federal level, especially drug laws, mandating certain penalties. What is happening to the black family. The welfare state helped to create this.
Hunter: This nation has rules of laws based on accountability.
Tavis interjects to get Hunter’s answer to the question about certain policy.
Keyes: “Master of the Dream.” Neighborhood government. Path that is constructive, not destructive. Consult the community of those on parole.
Huckabee: We don’t have a crime problem, we have a drug and alcohol problem. Drug rehab, not incarceration. Quit locking up the people we’re mad at, lock of those we’re afraid of.
Paul: No punishments of priveleges for any group. Don’t need more courts and prisons; repeal war on drugs. Wasted money. It’s a disease.
“Huh? This audience seems to be mostly black Republicans. Exactly what is wrong with trying to get their votes anyway?”
No, you misunderstand. I was not speaking of the audience, I was speaking of his fellow also-rans on the stage.
Huck wants to give DC representation.
what a doofus
Look for critics to say he wants to "turn back the clock".
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.