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A Topic for GOP candidates: Do minorities matter?
LA Times ^ | 9/27/07 | Peter Wallsten

Posted on 09/27/2007 4:38:10 PM PDT by sierrascrapper

WASHINGTON -- A PBS video previewing the network's Republican presidential candidates forum, set to air tonight from a historically black university, asks, "Can the party of Abraham Lincoln win the hearts and minds of all Americans?"

But none of the GOP's top White House contenders will show up to answer the question, each citing a scheduling conflict.

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Instead, viewers will see four empty lecterns on the stage as Tavis Smiley, an African American talk show host, poses questions to five lesser-known candidates: Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Alpine), Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.).

Coming days after the Spanish-language network Univision was forced to postpone its Republican forum because it was rejected by all but one candidate -- Sen. John McCain of Arizona -- the PBS forum has touched off a debate within the GOP over whether its 2008 candidates are trampling on past efforts to draw more minority voters.

"It's a missed opportunity," said former Maryland Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, who would have been the Senate's only black Republican had he won his election bid last year.

Steele, an organizer of the PBS forum, said he had confronted the campaigns in recent days, to no avail. He said that failing to connect with African American voters could be "lethal" in the general election.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackvote; debate; debates; election; gop; gopdebates; michaelsteele; minorities; racecard
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"When you consistently regret invitations to appear in front of black and brown audiences, I tend to think that's a pattern and not a scheduling problem," Smiley said in an interview Wednesday.

THIS SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME. Who is not showing up for this debate????

FRED THOMPSON MITT ROMNEY RUDY GIULIANI JOHN MCCAIN

If I was a minority, I would be offended too. I'm glad that the other candidates feel it is important to speak to all groups in our nation. We are a "melting pot" after all and you can't exclude certain grouops due to their color of skin. They all have a VOICE and VOTE

1 posted on 09/27/2007 4:38:17 PM PDT by sierrascrapper
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To: davidosborne; Calpernia; Sun; pissant; WalterSkinner; Antoninus; Califreak

Interesting article


2 posted on 09/27/2007 4:40:00 PM PDT by sierrascrapper (DUNCAN HUNTER 08 join us at http://duncanhunter.meetup.com/1/)
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To: sierrascrapper

So you want to waste your breath talking to a bunch of devout socialist?If you are a conservative I can see alot better things to do with ones time.You are not going to change anyones mind.


3 posted on 09/27/2007 4:47:31 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: sierrascrapper
"exclude"

Pardon me amigo, but nobody is being excluded. According to the constitution there are no minorities. Candidates should not have to speak to so-called minorities like Blacks, Latinos, whatever anymore than should have to speak to Norwegians, Greeks, or any other ethnic group. Speaking to so-called minorities is called pandering. If certain ethnic groups feel excluded, they should stop excluding themselves from the rest of the country. They're the ones doing the excluding. Get over your race and minority hang-ups.

4 posted on 09/27/2007 4:51:21 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: imahawk

I would tell them frankly why the conservative agenda should be pleasing to all.

“Do you black guys feel uneasy when you look at your pay stub and see that 50% goes to taxes?

“Do you want to live in a society whree it is illegal to smoke in your own house?

Put it to them directly. All they can say is no, we don’t care.


5 posted on 09/27/2007 4:52:33 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: sierrascrapper

They vote but usually for the party that supported Jim Crow laws and segregation, the party that fought tooth and nail against civil rights legislation. They vote against the party that was born out of opposition to slavery.


6 posted on 09/27/2007 4:53:41 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: imahawk

“So you want to waste your breath talking to a bunch of devout socialist?”

It wasn’t a waste of GW Bush’s breath when he increased the Republican percent of hispanics in Texas.


7 posted on 09/27/2007 4:54:19 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: driftless2
It’s not about inclusion or exclusion. It’s about pandering. If some group expects something in addition to what is being addressed to all Americans, they’re just another special interest looking to score stuff at public expense.
8 posted on 09/27/2007 4:57:17 PM PDT by isrul
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To: sierrascrapper

I am among the largest minority in the USA today. I am a white male, Christian, retired soldier, conservative. You don’t get any more minority status than that.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 4:59:02 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America's stupidity is overshadowed only by its pure stupidity.)
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To: imahawk
"...You are not going to change anyones mind...."

I guess when the Left Barks-everyone else is suppose to jump? Or is there a Group Now who has the job of keeping RECORDS of the number of times "Speaking Engagements are not attended?"

Double Dittos to THAT! ( Gee? I wonder just How many LIBERAL Candidates have had "Scheduling Problems" when asked to be interviewed or Speak on MINUTE MEN Forums? Mmmm?

Or how many times has EDWARDS, SHARPTON, Hillary Had "Schedual Problems that conflict with..." when RIGHT TO LIFE Forums asked THEM to come speak to defend THEIR Stances? Mmmm?

Never hear about THOSE " Conflicts " in the news? Do we? (Let alone "Comments" when Groups like the MinuteMen or Pro-Lifers were KICKED OFF with VIOLENCE from Public Speaking at Schools & Universities!)

I also tend to call into QUESTION the "Motives" and PRE-JUDGEMENTS Made by others or related PBS personnel, When THEY have the nerve to call Politcians like Duncan Hunter, Hukabee, or Tancredo " LESSER NAME " Republicans!? They are Pretty Top Name to me!----would they call "Shapton, Jackson" (All FAILING at all their attempts to gain National Recognition of Positions!) " Lesser Name Democrat Represenatives?

DA

10 posted on 09/27/2007 4:59:14 PM PDT by AirBorn
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To: sierrascrapper

Why would anyone go to get verbally beat up by a bunch of people that are not going to vote for you anyway, and as an opportunity to air their lefty positions?


11 posted on 09/27/2007 4:59:21 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: truth_seeker

“It wasn’t a waste of GW Bush’s breath when he increased the Republican percent of hispanics in Texas.”

Oh really?

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/12/nep_revises_tex.html

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_48/c3910069_mz013.htm


12 posted on 09/27/2007 4:59:56 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: sierrascrapper

I think the issue here is that the GOP sees Americans as “Americans.”

The Dems see Americans as: African-Americans, White Americans, Mexican-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc.


13 posted on 09/27/2007 5:04:09 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: L98Fiero

“Oh really?”

Yes, oh really.

The articles indicate the gains were not as large as initially reported. Granted. But Bush did nonetheless win more than before.

What is your strategy for Republicns to win? Writeoff blacks and hispanics? Just ignore them, because few will vote for you?

If you think about the 100 percent demographic pie, Republicans cannot afford to write off blacks, hispanics, and other groups.

Not so long as your goal is to win. But if your goal is to be idealogically pure, one might opt to cater to a decreasing but strident subset.


14 posted on 09/27/2007 5:19:49 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: proxy_user

I think that their actions already prove they dont care.


15 posted on 09/27/2007 5:30:49 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: truth_seeker

That was then and this is now.The hispanics have thrown their lot in with the rats now.


16 posted on 09/27/2007 5:32:20 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: AirBorn
I guess when the Left Barks-everyone else is suppose to jump?

Michael Steele is the Left? Who knew?!!!

17 posted on 09/27/2007 5:32:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: AirBorn

Funny about that.Screw ‘em.


18 posted on 09/27/2007 5:33:52 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk
The hispanics have thrown their lot in with the rats now.

You sure label folks with a broad brush! There are many conservative hispanics.

19 posted on 09/27/2007 5:35:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: sierrascrapper

Skipping it was stupid. So what if we can’t win that vote? We can at least get a few million voters from ‘em. So why stab them in the eye?


20 posted on 09/27/2007 5:41:23 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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