Posted on 09/26/2007 5:49:53 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
Thompson's refusal to back a nationwide ban on gay marriage has irritated potential supporters.
Fred Thompson is failing to meet expectations that he would rally widespread support from Christian conservatives, and he almost certainly will not receive a joint endorsement from the loose coalition of "pro-family" organizations, according to leaders of the movement.
Many religious conservatives, faced with a Republican primary top tier that lacked a true kindred spirit, initially looked to Thompson as a savior. But the former Tennessee senator has disappointed or just not sufficiently impressed the faith community since his formal campaign launch earlier this month.
While Christian conservatives once seemed willing to readily give Thompson the benefit of the doubt earlier this summer, when questions were raised about his lobbying for a pro-abortion-rights group, they are not willing to turn the other cheek anymore.
Even some on the religious right who remain sympathetic to Thompson are unhappy about his refusal to back a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, and were unpleasantly surprised by his confession that he doesn’t belong to or attend any church and won’t talk about his faith.
It was Thompson’s refusal to discuss his faith that is likely to deny him any unified backing from the organizations that comprise the Arlington Group, the umbrella coalition of almost every major social conservative group in the GOP constellation.
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You pointed out that Eric Dondero is a blogger who worked as a Senior Aide to Cong Ron Paul from 1997-2003. That fact alone places Dondero`s credibility in question. IOW, more than likely he's a Paul supporter and another cut and run a-hole. Dondero gave his opinion about Fred and nothing more. He took several events and made Fred into a pro-choice libertarian. And you say thats an interesting read. LMBO Sorry, it doesn't pass the smell test. Its nothing but pure fiction.
In the comments section, "aslinn" reminds us that Darla St. Martin, associate executive director of National Right to Life, traveled to Tennessee in 1994 to meet with Fred. "I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion," Fred went on to have a 100% pro-life voting record in the Senate. His recent views on abortion show he's still pro-life, just like he was in 1994.
>>>>>Ooooh! The Founders too, now!
Grow up! Fred is a federalist. So were the Founders and so was Reagan. Instead of excepting the facts as they are, you go off on a tangent in another wild attempt to run down Fred Thompson. You're nothing but a pathetic rumormonger.
Personal mark to a most important post. Reread often and mull.
Check this out. LINK And see my post at #421.
correction: accepting, not “excepting”.
That is a pro-Rudy blog. That dude has the same delusion as Luis Gonzalez that he’s somehow libertarian while at the same time supporting a gun-grabber. Please don’t take that guys take as representative of libertarian opinion.
No. I apologize. I must have been up too late last night, or shouldn’t have had that last beer. I got some posts mixed up somehow. Sorry!
No, Christianity in the Gospels and the Book of Acts was a very, very public thing. The Apostles of our Lord all preached in public, in the places of both Jewish and heathen worship — publicly — out in the open — where their message was not very well welcomed. It was to masses. They were hated by as many as loved them. NO, they were were hated by many more than those who loved them.
Reading the Book of Acts will show you that the disciples took the message of Christ to the highways and byways, the synagogues, where they their message was scorned, and the open public heathen places of idolatry. Read Acts chapter 17, for example. The Apostle Paul didn’t go their to “make friends and influence people.”
The command of Christ to his disciples and thus to all believers is to go to the whole world with the Gospel — NOT to hide it under a bushel — not to keep quiet about it.
John the Baptist didn’t keep quiet, told the king what his sins were, and lost his head over it. John didn’t just keep it a personal thing. Jesus later told the crowd that John came to them in the way of righteousness and they didn’t receive him. John was commended by the Lord.
Jesus didn’t save us by being an example of keeping anything to ourselves. Jesus didn’t do anything in a corner. He didn’t die as a martyr or MERELY as an example, but as a propitiatory, substitutionary sacrifice for SIN — mine and yours and the whole world’s. It was very, very public when He died at Calvary. The message of what happened there was commanded to be preached to every creature, every nation.
Christianity can be found no where in Scripture as an antithesis to Islam in regard to the method of its propagation, as you suggest with your words, “... faith being in this nation a PERSONAL thing, unlike in the Middle East.” Please study the Book of Acts, and you will realize this. Then when you consider what the Lord commanded with regard to its propagation in Matthew chapter 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, Acts 1 and many other passages, it will be seen that no believer can obey Christ by keeping their faith merely personal and quiet.
Christ told plainly that the disciples would be hated of all nations for His name’s sake. But they wouldn’t be, if they just kept their mouths shut, everybody would just get along. It is the public bearing of the message of Christ — the preaching of the Cross of Christ (not religion) as the only remedy for man’s SIN nature and his SIN practice.
The difference between Christianity and Islam in this context is that Islam says, “Convert or we’ll kill you.” Christianity, yes, biblicist Christianity, says, Christ died for your sins and He is the ONLY Hope of forgiveness and everlasting life,” and people hate and persecute Christians for telling the truth.
Stephen didn’t threaten anyone with violence in Acts chapter 7. Stephen told the leaders of Israel that God doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands, and he preached Christ as their only Remedy. The leaders of Israel stoned Stephen.
Paul didn’t threaten anyone with violence in Acts chapter 17. He told the idol worshiping Gentiles there that God doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands. They mocked Paul. Earlier in the same chapter, Paul’s preaching brought about a very public uproar, so serious that he had to escape the city where he was and head for another (Berea). A very public ministry indeed.
The “Great Awakening” in New England (Edwards, Whitfield, the Wesleys, others), not long prior to the Revolution was very public in its methods and in its affect. I believe that it can be said that it prepared the colonies spiritually for a war for independence and for the founding of a new nation.
No one has ever shown me a verse in Scripture teaching that Christianity is a merely a private matter and not to be openly proclaimed. You said, "...faith being in this nation a PERSONAL thing, unlike in the Middle East)..." I am very glad that Dwight Moody (Congregationalist), Sam Jones (Methodist), Billy Sunday (Presbyterian), J. Wilbur Chapman (Presbyterian), Mordacai Ham (Baptist), Billy Graham and many others like these men didn't believe that. Public preaching of the Gospel is a part of American history and heritage -- a very rich part of it.
I don’t follow daily libertarian politics. Just refuting an absurd post from some Fred hater. If Dondero is backing Rudy that might better explain his crazed politics.
So now, what if every time YOU express your views and give an illustration, somebody were to respond by saying to you, “YOU DEMAND, YOU DEMAND, YOU DEMAND, YOU DEMAND, YOU DEMAND.”
I went back and read my own posts, and can’t find where I demanded anything of anyone. I gave a “What if?” scenario as an illustration, because, though you might be ignorant of it, there are millions of American Christians who do live similarly to my illustration, and any one of them is also entitled to seek high office. So, “What if??”
And I just remembered that this Dondero dude is planning on challenging Ron Paul in his next primary. This joker is simply trying to pander to the libertarian-leaning voters of that district. Nothing more.
Is the primary over? Gee, I musta missed that.
Not yet and Fred Thompson may not win it although he has most chances of winning it.
That's where you're absolutely wrong. Scientifically, human life DOES begin at conception. However, it is not an accepted LEGAL fact at this time due to various liberal, judicial activist rulings.
Prove it.
When does it begin?
The zygote/embryo is obviously alive. It possesses organization, it adapts to its environment, it metabolizes, it grows, etc. It is just as alive as any other organism, except that it even contains full human DNA. Therefore, it is a human life.
You still really have not provided an answer concerning what that has to do with his candidacy today?!
He is a pro-life candidate.
What is your point?
Also,
Why do you see Fred as weak on the WOT?
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