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Evangelicals turn on Thompson
Politico ^ | September 26, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 09/26/2007 5:49:53 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah

Thompson's refusal to back a nationwide ban on gay marriage has irritated potential supporters.

Fred Thompson is failing to meet expectations that he would rally widespread support from Christian conservatives, and he almost certainly will not receive a joint endorsement from the loose coalition of "pro-family" organizations, according to leaders of the movement.

Many religious conservatives, faced with a Republican primary top tier that lacked a true kindred spirit, initially looked to Thompson as a savior. But the former Tennessee senator has disappointed or just not sufficiently impressed the faith community since his formal campaign launch earlier this month.

While Christian conservatives once seemed willing to readily give Thompson the benefit of the doubt earlier this summer, when questions were raised about his lobbying for a pro-abortion-rights group, they are not willing to turn the other cheek anymore.

Even some on the religious right who remain sympathetic to Thompson are unhappy about his refusal to back a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, and were unpleasantly surprised by his confession that he doesn’t belong to or attend any church and won’t talk about his faith.

It was Thompson’s refusal to discuss his faith that is likely to deny him any unified backing from the organizations that comprise the Arlington Group, the umbrella coalition of almost every major social conservative group in the GOP constellation.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; arlingtongroup; christianvote; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; fredthompson; homosexualagenda; rino; rinoalert; thompson
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; Spiff; fatima; SoCal Pubbie
Spiff is clever to point this out...

Cleverly dishonest, I'd say.

181 posted on 09/26/2007 8:47:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: fatima; Spiff
Hi Spiff,Do you have link”s for this.”Fred Thompson is reported to have fought to REMOVE the Ronald Reagan Pro-Life plank from the GOP Platform.”

Fred wanted to get rid of the entire platform not specifically the Pro-Life portion.

For starters, he wants to abolish the party platform - just toss the archaic thing away. 'It's the most useless device I've ever heard of,' Thompson said during a recent visit to Memphis."

the link is here!

182 posted on 09/26/2007 8:48:24 PM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: Politicalmom

When Willard drops ten points in New Hampshire, the desperation runs deep. Time for them to recycle the old lies and hope no one will notice.


183 posted on 09/26/2007 8:49:33 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Spiff

Thompson’s pat answer for everything seems to be “Leave it to the states”. Perhaps he’s against a pro life Constitutional amendment, too - I mean if he’s consistent.


184 posted on 09/26/2007 8:50:38 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Doofer

You trying to ruin a perfectly good lie or something?


185 posted on 09/26/2007 8:50:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I sense a whiff of the Beast’s scandal machine at work.


186 posted on 09/26/2007 8:50:59 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Rembrandt

I’ve never heard of Willard being described as “the Beast.”


187 posted on 09/26/2007 8:52:42 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: NeoCaveman
The American Spectator says Dobson is in the tank for Newt.


188 posted on 09/26/2007 8:53:16 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Petronski

“what Constitutional role does the President play in amendment of the Constitution?”

Bully pulpit, FReeper pal, bully pulpit.


189 posted on 09/26/2007 8:53:38 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I said “Constitutional role.”


190 posted on 09/26/2007 8:55:02 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Petronski
You trying to ruin a perfectly good lie or something?

Sorry [grin]...

191 posted on 09/26/2007 8:55:43 PM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: Saundra Duffy
we need a Constitutional Amendment in order to save our families from ruination.

Your family is going to be "ruined" if a constitutional amendment against gay marriage is not passed??

192 posted on 09/26/2007 8:55:53 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ishabibble
Why? Because it is true. As I said, they agree on more issues than do the other top tier candidates.

Unlike Rudy and Fred, Hunter and Romney agree on most of the GOP platform issues like FMA, tort reform, Reagan's Human Life Amendment etc....They also share their support of the WOT and their opposition to amnesty. They agree more than they disagree.

Also, they both have wonderful families and long-lasting marriages.

There are differences too -- Romney is not a career politician, has more executive experience and is a better speaker IMO. And while Mitt has years of business successes, Hunter served admirably in the military before becoming a politician. If Romney was not running, I would support Hunter.

When I complete those "Choose Your Candidate" questionnaires, Romney and Hunter are virtually tied near the top as my 1st and 2nd choices, respectively, almost every time. The three of us agree on most things.

193 posted on 09/26/2007 8:56:43 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Mitt = Newt-like brilliance without the baggage)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
Ping!
194 posted on 09/26/2007 8:57:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Doofer; Spiff
Thanks for that post. Should clarify matters for Spiff. Well, maybe not.

Btw .....

In 1994 and 1996 Fred received the endorsement of the National Right to Life Organization. His 100% pro-life Senate voting record speaks for itself. Fred also gets a 0% rating from NARAL. Because of CFR and not anything to do with the abortion issue, Fred`s rating with the NRTL was reduced. Being a supporter of federalism, Fred believes abortion isn't an issue for the federal government, but rather an issue for the states.

Bottom line. Fred believes Roe v Wade was a bad decision and wants to see the SCOTUS overturn Roe and end abortion on demand as the lawful national policy of the USA.

Some libertarians in Tennessee may say that Fred was pro-choice when he first ran for the Senate. Not true. Pure bunkum.

195 posted on 09/26/2007 8:58:30 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Mariner
Such an amendment is clearly contrary to the intent of the constitution...

Incorrect!

Try reading it:

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress;...

196 posted on 09/26/2007 8:58:48 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: JRochelle

So deska.

I guess he is not carried up here.

We don’t get a lot of syndicated radio shows locally.


197 posted on 09/26/2007 8:59:35 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
A president has no say over the passage of an Amendment. That is exclusively realm Congress and the state legislatures...

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress;...

198 posted on 09/26/2007 9:00:57 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

What’s with this Jonathan Martin? He has written hit piece after hit piece on Fred Thompson, often using sweeping generalizations. He also believes that the entire Evangelical Church of America moves lock-step with Dr. Dobson or any of the other many Christian organizations. That is so untrue.

THIS evangelical isn’t buying what he is trying to sell, and I happen to really like and respect Dr. Dobson. He has done wonderful work within the Christian Community. I just happen to disagree with him about Fred.

But this Jonathan Martin character really needs to step back a minute. Sheeesh. It’s almost as if he has a man-crush on Fred and feels jilted.


199 posted on 09/26/2007 9:04:22 PM PDT by Shelayne (NO running or relenting until the problem has been dealt with-decisively,systematically,permanently.)
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To: Doofer

From your link,”Thompson said he opposes making early-term abortions a crime,In August of that same year, Thompson called abortion a “distracting issue.” Read below from an Associated Press article:
U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson says he seldom hears about abortion in campaign travels throughout Tennessee and hopes the issue is downplayed at the Republican National Convention. The Tennessee Republican, a pro-choice defender in a party with an anti-abortion tilt, is preparing for next week’s convention in San Diego. He said the party must avoid distracting issues and focus on electing Bob Dole as president.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864165/posts/


200 posted on 09/26/2007 9:05:14 PM PDT by fatima (Baby alert,Baby Ava arrived 6-29-07 at 3 PM-she is 10 pounds:))
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