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Ohio, Florida laws could dampen Democratic voting
McClatchy News Service ^ | 9/26/2007 | Greg Gordon

Posted on 09/26/2007 2:20:30 PM PDT by oblomov

WASHINGTON — Ohio and Florida, which provided the decisive electoral votes for President Bush's two razor-thin national election triumphs, have enacted laws that election experts say will help Republicans impede Democratic-leaning minorities from voting in 2008.

Backers of the new laws say they're aimed at curbing vote fraud. But the statutes also could facilitate a controversial Republican tactic known as ``vote caging,'' which the GOP attempted in Ohio and Florida in 2004 before public disclosures foiled the efforts, said Joseph Rich, a former Justice Department voting rights chief in the Bush administration who's now with the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights.

Caging, used in the past to target poor minorities in heavily Democratic precincts, entails sending mass mailings to certain voters and then using the undelivered letters to compile lists of voters for eligibility challenges.

As the high-stakes ground war escalates heading into next year's elections, Republicans have led the charge for an array of revisions to state voting rights laws, especially in key battleground states. Republican political appointees in the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division have endorsed some of these measures.

Over the last three years, the Republican-controlled state legislatures in Indiana, Georgia, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have passed laws requiring every voter to produce a photo identification card — measures that civil rights groups contend were aimed at suppressing minority voting.

The Supreme Court agreed Tuesday to consider a constitutional challenge to Indiana's ID law on grounds that it unfairly affects poor and elderly voters. Gubernatorial vetoes or court rulings have nullified legislation in the other four states. A federal judge in Georgia, however, recently upheld a new photo ID law that imposes fewer obstacles to obtaining one.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: democratfraud; florida; floridadems; ohio; spartansixdelta; votefraud
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For Democrats, election day is "democracy day", a day when anything goes in the name of the mythical "people".
1 posted on 09/26/2007 2:20:30 PM PDT by oblomov
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What the headline means is that these laws will impede vote fraud, which is where most of the RAT votes come from.


2 posted on 09/26/2007 2:23:08 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: oblomov

True headline is Stopping Voter Fraud Hurt Democrats


3 posted on 09/26/2007 2:26:21 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: Redleg Duke

What it also means is, democrats believe their voting base is too lazy and too stupid to get an ID. The IDs are already required to get all their welfare bennies. And they are FREE! Voter fraud is the only way the demorats can stay competitive.


4 posted on 09/26/2007 2:28:44 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: oblomov
Caging, used in the past to target poor minorities in heavily Democratic precincts, entails sending mass mailings to certain voters and then using the undelivered letters to compile lists of voters for eligibility challenges.

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So??? Could someone explain to me why this is soooo horrible? Sorry, but I don´t get why is it unethical or illegal.

And,,,,if Republicans can do this, why couldn’t Dems do this is Republican areas? Hey! If there are illegitimate registrations in Republican areas, I would want these purged as well.

5 posted on 09/26/2007 2:29:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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“sending mass mailings to certain voters and then
using the undelivered letters to compile lists of voters for eligibility challenges. “

Quite frankly, I think that’s very smart, and cannot see a thing wrong with it.

I think the Dims are just jealous they can’t use it because Republicans are usually living where they say they are...


6 posted on 09/26/2007 2:30:10 PM PDT by HeadOn (Hey kids - Learn to think instead of prepping for the test.)
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True headline is Stopping Voter Fraud Hurt Democrats

Exactly!

I can'tthink of one reason why you should not have to present and ID.

7 posted on 09/26/2007 2:30:47 PM PDT by mazza
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sending mass mailings to certain voters and then using the undelivered letters to compile lists of voters for eligibility challenges.

in other words, to weed out the people living in empty lots, under tombstones, in dog houses...

nasty republicans

8 posted on 09/26/2007 2:31:12 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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Caging, used in the past to target poor minorities in heavily Democratic precincts, entails sending mass mailings to certain voters and then using the undelivered letters to compile lists of voters for eligibility challenges.

That sounds like a good way of comparing the voter registration lists with the post office's knowledge of who lives where and (maybe more importantly) what addresses just don't exist. After I moved from my parents' house and registered in my new county, the old county was supposed to be informed of my move and cancel my registration. They didn't as I found out years later when my parents got my jury duty notice.

Over the last three years, the Republican-controlled state legislatures in Indiana, Georgia, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have passed laws requiring every voter to produce a photo identification card — measures that civil rights groups contend were aimed at suppressing minority voting.

Minorities like the dead (except in Chicago where they may be the majority of voters).

9 posted on 09/26/2007 2:32:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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"two razor-thin"

In 2004 62 million votes were cast for W. The most votes cast for anyone in the history of the world, IIRC.


10 posted on 09/26/2007 2:34:30 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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Republican tactic known as "vote caging,"

Cage as in a barred room or fenced enclosure.

I am sure I speak for all Americans who reject this disgusting attempt by Republicans to deny the voting booth to non-citizens and dead voters. The Democratic Party is right to expose this foul practice to deny a major portion of their votes. It's tradition.

11 posted on 09/26/2007 2:36:22 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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McClatchy News Service

McClatchy Agitprop Service, more like it.

12 posted on 09/26/2007 2:36:29 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies
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The IDs are already required to get all their welfare bennies. And they are FREE!

In Georgia, if the putative voter can't get to a place to get his voter ID, the state will send a van with the equipment to produce a voter ID. At no charge, by the way.

13 posted on 09/26/2007 2:37:46 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: oblomov
Absentee balloting is still a loophole

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14 posted on 09/26/2007 2:38:26 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Heh.. Their slogan is “truth to power”, which has a musty smell that puts me in mind of the old TV show “Lou Grant” , and paranoid 70s movies like “All the President’s Men”, “Three Days of the Condor”, “Chinatown”, and “Parallax View”.


15 posted on 09/26/2007 2:42:24 PM PDT by oblomov
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...you mean I actually have to prove that I’m a living citizen to vote? Those bastards!


16 posted on 09/26/2007 2:46:54 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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So, how is making sure that a person is eligible to vote, disenfranchising them?


17 posted on 09/26/2007 2:47:43 PM PDT by wbill
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“will help Republicans impede Democratic-leaning minorities from voting”

I’m betting that I know which political party this nincompoop supports.


18 posted on 09/26/2007 2:49:53 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Ron in Acreage

“democrats believe their voting base is too lazy and too stupid to get an ID”

Hey, something that the Dummies and I agree on!!


19 posted on 09/26/2007 2:50:46 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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"Over the last three years, the Republican-controlled state legislatures in Indiana, Georgia, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have passed laws requiring every voter to produce a photo identification card — measures that civil rights groups contend were aimed at suppressing minority voting."

I'm afraid to ask...did Fast Eddie actually sign it?
20 posted on 09/26/2007 2:51:26 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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