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Gorbachev warns Russians against rise of Stalinism (country in danger of forgetting its tragic past)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 9/26/07 | Dmitry Solovyov

Posted on 09/26/2007 11:26:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev warned Russians on Wednesday of the risk of a rebirth of Stalinism, saying their country was in danger of forgetting its tragic past.

"We should remember those who suffered, because this a lesson for all of us," Gorbachev told a conference marking 70 years since the start of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's Great Terror.

"We must squeeze Stalinism out of ourselves, not in single drops but by the glass or bucket," Gorbachev added. "There are those saying Stalin's rule was the Golden Age, while (Nikita) Khrushchev's thaw was sheer utopia and (Leonid) Brezhnev's neo-Stalinism was the continuation of the Golden Age."

During the Great Terror, 1.7 million Soviet citizens were arrested between August 1937 and November 1938, of whom 818,000 were executed, the human rights group Memorial said.

Historians estimate that up to 13 million people were killed or sent to labor camps in the former Soviet Union between 1921 and 1953, the year Stalin died.

Despite Stalin's record, recent polls have shown many young Russians have a positive view of the former Soviet leader and there have been attempts this year to play down his excesses, which have found an echo among the country's youth.

Fifty-four percent of Russian youth believe that Stalin did more good than bad and half said he was a wise leader, according to a poll conducted in July by the Yuri Levada Centre.

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A prime-time television documentary drama series at the start of this year drew critical fire by attempting to portray Stalin in a new light, as a man with a conscience who sought a relationship with God in his final days.

President Vladimir Putin has never praised Stalin. However, he stirred controversy at a meeting with teachers when he appeared to play down the Great Terror, saying Russia "must not allow others to impose a feeling of guilt on us" and adding that the country had "not had such bleak pages (in history) as was the case with Nazism."

A new history teaching manual partly authored by Putin's chief political strategist Vladislav Surkov and unveiled in June described Stalin as brutal but also "the most successful leader of the USSR."

It gave few details of the Great Terror, instead emphasizing Stalin's achievements in rebuilding the Soviet economy after World War Two and industrializing the country.

"It was namely during his leadership that the country's area was expanded to the borders of the former Russian empire (and sometimes beyond them), victory was gained in the greatest war -- the Great Patriotic War, industrialization was achieved and cultural revolution accomplished," the textbook says.

Gorbachev, praised in the West as a man who ended the Cold War but vilified by many Russians for presiding over the Soviet Union's chaotic collapse, triggered a heated discussion at the conference about the new history manual.

"A massive campaign to revise the collective memory is under way," said Irina Shcherbakova, a Memorial project coordinator. "We plunge them (Russia's younger generation) into half-lies, half-truth, and in the end we get ready-made cynics."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gorbachev; gorby; gorbywantspayoff; payoff; russians; stalinism; warns
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1 posted on 09/26/2007 11:26:21 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev attends the 2006 Women's World Awards at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York October 14, 2006. Gorbachev warned Russians on Wednesday of the risk of a rebirth of Stalinism, saying their country was in danger of forgetting its tragic past. (Eric Thayer/Reuters)


2 posted on 09/26/2007 11:27:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev speaks at the unveiling ceremony of Raisa Gorbachev Institute of Pediatric Hematology and Transplantology, with a bas relief of Raisa Gorbachev in the background, in St.Petersburg, Russia, Thursday, Sept. 20, 2007. Gorbachev attended the opening ceremony of the center named after his wife Raisa Gorbachev and thanked all people and organizations who provided financial support for the construction of the center. (AP Photo/Dmitry Lovetsky)


3 posted on 09/26/2007 11:28:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

He hasn’t had an original thought since he said “Why don’t I tear down this wall”?


4 posted on 09/26/2007 11:35:01 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
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To: NormsRevenge
I think the following could also apply to schools in the U.S.

"A massive campaign to revise the collective memory is under way," said Irina Shcherbakova, a Memorial project coordinator. "We plunge them (Russia's younger generation) into half-lies, half-truth, and in the end we get ready-made cynics."

5 posted on 09/26/2007 11:35:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge

So the Vilnius Massacre wasn’t “Stalinism,” Gorby?

Pot, meet kettle.


6 posted on 09/26/2007 11:36:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: NormsRevenge

Vladimir Putin, call your office....


7 posted on 09/26/2007 11:37:43 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: NormsRevenge

The old commie looks like he hasn’t aged a day.................


8 posted on 09/26/2007 11:37:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Despite Stalin's record, recent polls have shown many young Russians have a positive view of the former Soviet leader and there have been attempts this year to play down his excesses, which have found an echo among the country's youth.

The strongman who delegates power and gives free stuff to a few hand-picked supporters while crushing their enemies is always a popular figure among the young and powerless.

Which explains the enduring appeal of Democrat politicians to youthful voters. ;)

9 posted on 09/26/2007 11:38:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: NormsRevenge

you guys can say what you want, but it is my belief that this man was the finest leader Russia has ever had. Of course, Russia doesn’t have a history of very enlightened leadership


10 posted on 09/26/2007 11:39:01 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We must squeeze Stalinism out of ourselves, not in single drops but by the glass or bucket," Gorbachev added.

For once I agree with Gorby. Maybe we should follow that advice ourselves - squeeze the Stalinism out of our government. But there are others who want to add more:


11 posted on 09/26/2007 11:40:24 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting turn of events...Yeltsin’s hand picked successor is steering toward Stalinist control and militarism while the last leader under Stalin’s system tries to remind Russians of the Stalin’s horrors.


12 posted on 09/26/2007 11:41:30 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: NormsRevenge
"We must squeeze Stalinism out of ourselves, not in single drops but by the glass or bucket," Gorbachev added. "There are those saying Stalin's rule was the Golden Age, while (Nikita) Khrushchev's thaw was sheer utopia and (Leonid) Brezhnev's neo-Stalinism was the continuation of the Golden Age."

Gotta give Gorby some credit for saying this. Even Rush might have a Gorbasm. :-)

13 posted on 09/26/2007 11:41:34 AM PDT by decimon
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To: NormsRevenge

Putinism....

And another example of the Power of Propoganda.


14 posted on 09/26/2007 11:42:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Red Badger

The old commie looks like he hasn’t aged a day.................

It’s all the time he spends in San FRancisco at his institute perhaps.. it’s an old commies haven .. 8-]

Too bad about Raisa ,, maybe he can do some good for our side ,, at least raise the consciousness level of the herds a bit..


15 posted on 09/26/2007 11:48:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gorbachev, praised in the West as a man who ended the Cold War

Only by those who refuse to give Ronald Reagan his due.

16 posted on 09/26/2007 11:50:15 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gosh, Who would have thought Gorby would be the one making sense in Russia. It definitely shows the true nature of this Putin fellow.


17 posted on 09/26/2007 11:56:03 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wonder if Gorby still feels all warm and fuzzy about Lenin and Buckharin?


18 posted on 09/26/2007 11:59:01 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: ChurtleDawg

I’m partial to Ivan The Terrible myself....


19 posted on 09/26/2007 12:28:16 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Stopped clock, twice a day, etc.


20 posted on 09/26/2007 12:35:32 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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